did I really write SC or SZ, I know it is an SE. And you're right I do have the 
most recent update. I wasthinking that the 6S has yet another update I could 
graduate to but I don't think I'm going to do that because I'll probably have 
the same problems I'm having on the New phone which I was very eagerly awaiting 
to purchase. I succeeded here in properly writing SE as in Sam and elephant! 
Thanks all.
deidre


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> On May 11, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ´╗┐Hi Deidre. iOS 13.4.1, is the latest update.
> 
> Also, i think you mean, the iPhone SE, not SC.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: deidre muccio
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 8:47 PM
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> Subject: Re: voice over instability
> 
>> Richard, I am indeed using the new SC with 13.4.1. There's one more update I 
>> could do. I don't didn't have any trouble with the success using an issue 
>> even earlier version of 13. I think part of the problem when writing a 
>> message you're trying to edit something in a Gmail mail message, is that I 
>> am activating inadvertently the text formatting or all those things that try 
>> and insert themselves like do you want to insert a picture or do you want to 
>> do some kind of text formatting and then it just throws me just the whole 
>> voiceover thing no longer is working with the text that I had started 
>> writing. And like just now I'm dictating this for a second time. Somehow it 
>> just got deleted, the whole message. i'm afraid to even go back and try and 
>> edit this now for fear it's going to do something quirky all over again. So 
>> please excuse the errors in this message. God how I miss my PC and outlook 
>> which I am responsible for corrupting after trying to delete 27,000 messages 
>> or at least go through 27,000 messages to get rid of the things that were 
>> hidden in an unread folder that were copies of other things that I have long 
>> since deleted. My mistake.
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