Where exactly are container descriptions? I went to settings, accessibility, voiceover, verbosity, and I couldn't find anything about containers. I'm running 13.7 is this only in 14?
On 9/21/20, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > I find that with container descriptions off, all my text messages still > speak the name of the sender, and in the case of a group text, it says the > names of each individual in the conversation, without all that extra > verbiage. > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward > Herbert > > On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:29 AM, Alvin Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > > But when you turn off the container descriptions, you will not know which > message you are in using the treaded mails. Besides, VO will not announce > who the sender is. > > > > On 21 Sep 2020, at 9:03 AM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Take a look at the verbosity settings for Voiceover. I set the "container > descriptions" to "do nothing" and I am not getting a lot of the extra > speech. > > Michael > > > > > > On Sep 20, 2020, at 19:23, Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the > thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app. > > Kim > > On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <[email protected]> wrote: > Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug or well > intentioned effort to provide more description/information, but it's one of > those cases where more isn't better. > I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very least > include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us more > experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken. > Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO says > no > unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO doesn’t' read X > unread messages, there are no unread emails in that folder or inbox. Just > more superfluous chatter we have to sift through every single time. Again, > probably mor appropriate for when hints are turned on. > > > Cristóbal > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Toolbar? > > I very much agree here, always thought how nice it would be to be able to > turn off how Voiceover says "Dock" whenever I touch one of the apps there. > After all, it doesn't say "Home screen 1" if I touch an app on my first > home > screen and I think Apple really needs to tie such redundant announcements > to > Voiceover Hints or to entirely allow them to be turned on or off just how > you can really customize what information Jaws speaks. Any half way > competent iPhone user doesn't need to hear "Dock" or "Toolbar" or "tab bar" > spoken. Yes, you get used to it, but it's still annoying and hopefully a > number of people will write to Apple Accessibility requesting this. This is > definitely one I will point out especially now that they are expanding such > extra announcements. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:58 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Toolbar? > > It would be nice to be able to turn these announcements off. I mean really, > toolbar? But it’s been there all through the beta cycle, so I’m sure it’s > deliberate. More unnecessary verbosity. Please let us turn all this junk > off. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That would be considered a feature by Apple, just like the Dock saying > the Dock when you touch the apps at the bottom of your screen. > Apparently, we are supposed to know we are in the Toolbar, or Dock, as if > one couldn't figure that out because it is the last line of the screen. > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - > Edward Herbert > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Gerardo Corripio > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Toolbar? > > I’m curious if when we touch, for example within the Mail app, near the > dock where you have the ToolBar to delete, More Options, and others, is it > an iOS14 bug that it says ToolBar, or is it someting that should be there? > Of course it doesn’t bother me, but I’m curious. > > Gera > Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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