Hi Kate, Hi Kate, Are you sighted? I wasn't sure from your message but I wanted to be clear so as to help the best way.
I taught for a State rehabilitation agency for 17 years before retiring last year. 2 of those years I worked in the "Older Blind" program which went to people's homes who were over 55 and dealing with vision loss. I taught lots of people with good vision and no vision. I am totally blind myself. Of course, Covid is preventing in home visits in most States. You may be able to get some help from your State's Rehab agency. Which State are you in? Another great resource are the videos provided by the Hadley Institute for the Blind. Hadley Institute for the Blind is a free adult education program that does everything remotely. Mostly through video workshops. Here is a page that you may find lots of help so you can help your Grandmother. Hadley Vision Resources | Free Resources For Living with Low Vision<https://hadley.edu/learn?topic_id=14> I worked with enough families going through what you are going through that I fully understand the difficulties and the resistance from your Grandmother. Hang in there and when she finds she can do a lot just by asking Siri, even if it is just holding the home button down and asking the time; or to call you, whatever, she may begin to open to the idea. Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kait Forbes Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 3:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: In need of assistance okay everyone, Wow, I am grateful for this support to help me with my Grands phone. I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be introducing all this to her. She is not receptive to any of this. Let's just say the fight is on. She sees light and that is it, some shadow but nothing more. She has had a flip phone but can not use it. I bought this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her. I know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down. I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit. It is just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing. I need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life. I also Know I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me , I would be forever grateful. Let me tell you what I would like to start with if I may? The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away. If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any additional voice commands or the need to do anything else. I know this sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that is enough. I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem. this being said am I on the right track? and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and to build her confidence? It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done. I do hope you all understand? I thank you very much for your kindness, support and consideration. 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She will need to respond to five prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my phone nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be used that way. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: In need of assistance Hi Kate, You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn on voice over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt. Mr. Ed -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Shai Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: In need of assistance Hello Kate, I'd also be happy to help. The tripple press of the home button is only in effect when the phone has been turned on for the first time. If it's already been set up, then the user would go to settings/accessibility/accessibility shortcut and select VoiceOver to configure this. After that, then use the tripple press of the home button to turn on VoiceOver. My contact information is in the signature line. On 5/2/21, Kait Forbes <miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com<mailto:miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > Okay, Let me give you a bit of background. I Care for my Grandmother, > she is my mom. 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