There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful research. 

I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT&T and is giving 
up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now is having 
some real issues; she can't even sell it. 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that would 
be easier for your grandmother. 
 
The flat screen can really put people off at first.



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        On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        
        

         

        Hi Kait,

         

        This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device with 
adaptive technology.

         

        Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help.

         

        Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is difficult 
in the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as voiceover the 
screen reader then you really start having clashs 

        I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a 
mobile and computer.

         

         

        As you say just take it one step at a time,

         

        As for your 911  yes if hey siri is on, 

        She should be able to use it to call 911,

         

        The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press 5 
times  should give you an sos format of calling,

         

        Which may or may not be a good thing,

         

        Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now has 
an alert for people that have fallen 

        So if you had a watch for your gran,

        The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency 
services know that she had fallen.

         

        Hope this is of some use,

        Good luck and feel free to ask anything.

         

        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Kait Forbes
        Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: In need of assistance

         

        okay everyone,  Wow, I  am grateful for this support to help me with my 
Grands phone.  I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that will be 
introducing all this to her.  She is not receptive to any of this.  Let's just 
say the fight is on.  She sees light and that is it, some shadow but  nothing 
more.  She has had a flip phone but can not use it.  I bought this and then 
realized I too needed assistance in order to help her.  I know that I will not 
be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having a hard time with what 
has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do not overwhelm her at this 
point but do however want to introduce things just one step at a time. If I try 
to push I am afraid she will shut down.   I truly believe in time she will see 
that this will be of benefit.  It is just her and I here and I work outside the 
home. I tried to set this phone up for her but soon realized I know nothing.  I 
need to step up to the plate for her as she was for me in my life.  I also Know 
I am asking a lot from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to 
assisting me , I would be forever grateful.  Let me tell you what I would like 
to start with if I may?  The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting 
her to know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away.  
If she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any 
additional voice commands or the need to do anything else.  I know this sounds 
probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough that that 
is enough.  I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she calls for 9 1 
1 using hey siri there would be no problem.  this being said am I on the right 
track?  and if so what would or could I do next to show her there is more and 
to build her confidence?  It is all kindergarten stuff I know but I assure you 
this is how it must be done.  I do hope you all understand?  I thank you very 
much for your kindness, support and consideration.  Kait

         

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                Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go 
to Siri in Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five 
prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep my 
phone nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have an 
emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can be used 
that way. 
                
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                From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  [mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
                Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM
                To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
                Subject: RE: In need of assistance
                
                Hi Kate,
                You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn 
on voice over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned on in 
settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt.
                Mr. Ed
                
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<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Shai
                Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM
                To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
                Subject: Re: In need of assistance
                
                Hello Kate,
                I'd also be happy to help. The tripple press of the home button 
is only in effect when the phone has been turned on for the first time.
                If it's already been set up, then the user would go to 
settings/accessibility/accessibility shortcut and select VoiceOver to configure 
this.
                After that, then use the tripple press of the home button to 
turn on VoiceOver.
                My contact information is in the signature line.
                
                
                On 5/2/21, Kait Forbes <[email protected] 
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                > Good morning everyone,
                >
                > Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my 
Grandmother, 
                > she is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally 
blind.  
                > I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am 
starting 
                > with her phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the 
groups 
                > that can do this for us.  With your help I too will have the 
knowledge to assist her.
                > I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has 
the 
                > version iso
                > 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set 
this up for 
                > her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
                > Kait
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