I am not sure I understand this post? Are you referring to another phone? Kait
On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:47 AM Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > I think most vendors offer 30-day trials. If the phone meets her needs, > who cares whether you can get rid of it or not. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:37 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: In need of assistance > > Cryptic responses like this help no one. > Perhaps you could say what you mean by you can't get rid of it? > > We are attempting to help someone unfamiliar with accessible phones. > > > > Richard > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but > what they become by it." > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 > > Web site: www.turner42.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Michael Irons > Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > Make a better name for the blind shell could be the blind hell because > when you get that phone you can’t get rid of it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > > > There are push button phones that work, but they require some careful > research. > > > > I have a friend who has just gotten the latest Kyocera from AT&T and is > giving up her Blind Shell Classic that never served her adequately and now > is having some real issues; she can't even sell it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Richard Turner > > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:31 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > > > You know Kate, there are push button/flip type phones that talk if that > would be easier for your grandmother. > > > > The flat screen can really put people off at first. > > > > > > > > Richard > > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds > discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=OXIIonTfGLPMJP%2BWQunDjDmvla%2FZANZxE2GFGpIxqcU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > On May 2, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kait, > > > > > > > > This list is a great resource for anyone learning to use a device > with adaptive technology. > > > > > > > > Feel free to ask any questions and we’ll do our best to help. > > > > > > > > Yes trying to teach an older person how to use technology is > difficult in the first situation, but when you add in adaptive tech such as > voiceover the screen reader then you really start having clashs > > > > I know this from trying to teach my mother and father how to use a > mobile and computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you say just take it one step at a time, > > > > > > > > As for your 911 yes if hey siri is on, > > > > She should be able to use it to call 911, > > > > > > > > The other option is the power button on the phone which if you press > 5 times should give you an sos format of calling, > > > > > > > > Which may or may not be a good thing, > > > > > > > > Another but slightly more costly thing is that the apple watch now > has an alert for people that have fallen > > > > So if you had a watch for your gran, > > > > The trip alert could be setup to let yourself know or emergency > services know that she had fallen. > > > > > > > > Hope this is of some use, > > > > Good luck and feel free to ask anything. > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > Of Kait Forbes > > Sent: Monday, 3 May 2021 10:17 am > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > > > > > > > okay everyone, Wow, I am grateful for this support to help me with > my Grands phone. I need to learn as much as she does as I am the one that > will be introducing all this to her. She is not receptive to any of this. > Let's just say the fight is on. She sees light and that is it, some shadow > but nothing more. She has had a flip phone but can not use it. I bought > this and then realized I too needed assistance in order to help her. I > know that I will not be able to dump this on her all at once.Gran is having > a hard time with what has been dealt to her and I want to make sure I do > not overwhelm her at this point but do however want to introduce things > just one step at a time. If I try to push I am afraid she will shut down. > I truly believe in time she will see that this will be of benefit. It is > just her and I here and I work outside the home. I tried to set this phone > up for her but soon realized I know nothing. I need to step up to the > plate for her as she was for me in my life. I also Know I am asking a lot > from all of you here but if you could see your way clear to assisting me , > I would be forever grateful. Let me tell you what I would like to start > with if I may? The,hey Siri would be helpful to start with getting her to > know she can use it for emergency calls or to call me when I am away. If > she starts with this will she be able to keep the speaker on without any > additional voice commands or the need to do anything else. I know this > sounds probably like an idiot mode kind of thing but I know her well enough > that that is enough. I have my number in the phone and I do believe if she > calls for 9 1 1 using hey siri there would be no problem. this being said > am I on the right track? and if so what would or could I do next to show > her there is more and to build her confidence? It is all kindergarten > stuff I know but I assure you this is how it must be done. I do hope you > all understand? I thank you very much for your kindness, support and > consideration. Kait > > > > > > > > < > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Femail-signature%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lvU2DEPM9ou1OsYxdHtGEKjXU7JMhDiNM6LBxdT%2F8h0%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > <~WRD0000.jpg> > > > > Virus-free. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=661t8RlnCcwnmyo%2BA0ZsS6rDa2comPmMhLqUAxQs6Wo%3D&reserved=0 > < > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Femail-signature%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb0359e3bc6bc425fb04208d90e48df4c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637556528404082360%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lvU2DEPM9ou1OsYxdHtGEKjXU7JMhDiNM6LBxdT%2F8h0%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net > <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote: > > > > Hay Siri can be helpful to her, Kate, but you will have to go to > Siri in Settings and set that up for her. She will need to respond to five > prompts, so that Siri will recognize her voice. It is a great thing. I keep > my phone nearby when taking a shower, with the idea that if I should have > an emergency, I can say, Hay Siri, call Jim or Hay Siri, call 911. It can > be used that way. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Mr. Ed > > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 2:28 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: RE: In need of assistance > > > > Hi Kate, > > You can also turn Voice Over on and off by telling Siri to turn > on voice over or Hey Siri turn off voice over if you have Hey Siri turned > on in settings or by holding down the home button until you hear the prompt. > > Mr. Ed > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Shai > > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2021 1:21 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: In need of assistance > > > > Hello Kate, > > I'd also be happy to help. The tripple press of the home button > is only in effect when the phone has been turned on for the first time. > > If it's already been set up, then the user would go to > settings/accessibility/accessibility shortcut and select VoiceOver to > configure this. > > After that, then use the tripple press of the home button to turn > on VoiceOver. > > My contact information is in the signature line. > > > > > > On 5/2/21, Kait Forbes <miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com <mailto: > miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Good morning everyone, > > > > > > Okay, Let me give you a bit of background. I Care for my > Grandmother, > > > she is my mom. With recent illness she is now almost totally > blind. > > > I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am > starting > > > with her phone. I need help and I am told this is one of the > groups > > > that can do this for us. With your help I too will have the > knowledge to assist her. > > > I bought her the iPhone SE 2nd. generation. 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