I think almost all visually impaired users find the lack of a home button to be not a big deal once you get used to the swipe up from the bottom. For me it's at a point where I always try to swipe up on the iPad we have at my store before I remember "Oh, this has a home button". I mean what does the home button really do? Just 2 things, you press it once to get out of an app and go to the home screen and second you press it twice to bring up the app switcher. The triple press to start or stop Voiceover is already taken care of by triple pressing the side button. As for the single and double press, instead of putting your finger on the home button and pressing it you put your finger on the bottom of the screen where you would put it anyways if you had a home button and you do a bit of a swipe up or a bit more of a swipe up if you want to bring up the app switcher. I honestly find it easier and when it come sto Touch Id, well, Face Id works actually better for me because I can use it when I wear gloves or when my fingers are messed up from woodworking. Yes, I know only a very small percentage of blind people use a table saw and other power tools, but I know a lot of sighted people who are in the same boat, they do a lot of manual work and Touch Id doesn't work for them 9 out of 10 times like for my brother who is a Rancher, a good friend of mine who is a mechanic and either wears gloves or his hands are full of oil and grease.. I somehow doubt Apple will once again replace Face Id with Touch Id and if they can implement a Touch Id home button like on some iPads or even better under-glass Touch Id then people have the best of both worlds. I think a phone which you drag around everywhere would be better with under-glass Touch Id because I could see where a Touch Id home button could get damaged.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Johna Gravitt Sent: October 4, 2021 10:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 I'm personally still bothered by the fact that they got rid of the home button If they get rid of touch id wouldn't that make it harder for VO users? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 Well, there's also customer demand. I know if all things were equal, and I had the option to have touch ID included, then I'd go with the phone that offered me touch ID. I don't know if the demand is strong enough for Apple to consider this, or if Apple would even take this into account. I'd also be a little skeptical about reading Apple's reasons why they don't include touch ID. Sure, it may be because they think face ID is more secure, but they were also able to get rid of the home button and a finger print scanner. It'll be interesting to see if they consider in screen touch ID in the future. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 AM To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 I really don't think Apple is going to utilize Touch ID in the iPhones going forward. Face ID works beautifully and it gets better with every release. Apple keeps updating patents for Touch ID which means they're actively working on it, but this also means if they keep updating the patents they haven't found the technology to work up to their standards. Just my two cents on the topic. 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