I am glad not to have a Home Button now. If touch ID was possible, I probably 
would get it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

Well, I don't miss the home button, and in fact, I kind of like not having it 
get in the way of things like braille screen input. My preference for touch ID 
over face ID has nothing to do with me being blind or being a VoiceOver user. I 
just like being able to unlock my phone without having to wave it in front of 
my face, like when it S lying on the night stand or under a table top.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 12:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

I'm personally still bothered by the fact that they got rid of the home button 
If they get rid of touch id wouldn't that make it harder for VO users?


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

Well, there's also customer demand. I know if all things were equal, and I had 
the option to have touch ID included, then I'd go with the phone that offered 
me touch ID. I don't know if the demand is strong enough for Apple to consider 
this, or if Apple would even take this into account. I'd also be a little 
skeptical about reading Apple's reasons why they don't include touch ID. Sure, 
it may be because they think face ID is more secure, but they were also able to 
get rid of the home button and a finger print scanner. It'll be interesting to 
see if they consider in screen touch ID in the future.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

I really don't think Apple is going to utilize Touch ID in the iPhones going 
forward. Face ID works beautifully and it gets better with every release. 

Apple keeps updating patents for Touch ID which means they're actively working 
on it, but this also means if they keep updating the patents they haven't found 
the technology to work up to their standards.

Just my two cents on the topic.

Ed


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> This was mentioned in a mac rumours release
> 
> They believe the under screen touch id will be in the 2023 release of 
> the iPhone and a folding iPhone in 2024
> 
> Me,
> Don't care
> I just know it will get here when it gets here.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:13 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
> 
> Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or 
> incorporate a Touch Id side button??
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
> 
> Links worked fine. My comment was for those holding their breath for the 
> iPhone 14. Their beloved fingerprint reader will not be happening.
> For those of us who crave small phones, jump on the iPhone 13 before it goes 
> away.  It's double the storage of last year's 12 for the same price.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
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