Yeah I couldn't go back to touch id, The face id of my 11 pro max is great and just as quick if not quicker for me than touch,
Unless I'm wearing a mask. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2021 6:36 pm To: [email protected] Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 And for me it's the opposite, Face Id is more reliable. Les, did you turn off attention? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: October 4, 2021 12:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 Well, I have been using Face ID for close to a year. I can state one fat categorically. Touch ID worked essentially 100% of the time for me. Face ID does not. It works the majority of the time, but certainly not always. Wow I can live with Face ID, I do hope that Apple comes out with a touch ID option. Even if it’s not an actual button, I would still like to see them implement that. If they don’t, I can live with it, however. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Johna Gravitt <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just so I'm clear, I'm by no means saying that just because I miss > the home button doesn't mean I couldn't operate a phone without one, I just > like it, that's all. I have not used a phone with face ID yet, as I have the > latest SE Version that I upgraded to from my 8. With that being said, I do > like the touch ID and was just posing the question if face ID is harder to > use for a person who's blind. I ask because the nature of my eye conditions > makes my eyes move on their own and I was wondering if that'd cause a problem > with facial recognition. > I would however miss not being able to just touch my phone to unlock it and > always having to pick it up and put it in front of my face to unlock it. > Johna > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Alex Stone > Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 2:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 > > Sieghart, I completely agree. How some blind i or Vi people act as though the > lack of a home makes the entire device completely inaccessible. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 4 Oct 2021, at 19:28, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think almost all visually impaired users find the lack of a home button >> to be not a big deal once you get used to the swipe up from the bottom. For >> me it's at a point where I always try to swipe up on the iPad we have at my >> store before I remember "Oh, this has a home button". I mean what does the >> home button really do? Just 2 things, you press it once to get out of an app >> and go to the home screen and second you press it twice to bring up the app >> switcher. The triple press to start or stop Voiceover is already taken care >> of by triple pressing the side button. >> As for the single and double press, instead of putting your finger on the >> home button and pressing it you put your finger on the bottom of the screen >> where you would put it anyways if you had a home button and you do a bit of >> a swipe up or a bit more of a swipe up if you want to bring up the app >> switcher. I honestly find it easier and when it come sto Touch Id, well, >> Face Id works actually better for me because I can use it when I wear gloves >> or when my fingers are messed up from woodworking. Yes, I know only a very >> small percentage of blind people use a table saw and other power tools, but >> I know a lot of sighted people who are in the same boat, they do a lot of >> manual work and Touch Id doesn't work for them 9 out of 10 times like for my >> brother who is a Rancher, a good friend of mine who is a mechanic and either >> wears gloves or his hands are full of oil and grease.. I somehow doubt Apple >> will once again replace Face Id with Touch Id and if they can implement a >> Touch Id home button like on some iPads or even better under-glass Touch Id >> then people have the best of both worlds. I think a phone which you drag >> around everywhere would be better with under-glass Touch Id because I could >> see where a Touch Id home button could get damaged. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Johna Gravitt >> Sent: October 4, 2021 10:54 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 >> >> I'm personally still bothered by the fact that they got rid of the home >> button If they get rid of touch id wouldn't that make it harder for VO users? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:49 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 >> >> Well, there's also customer demand. I know if all things were equal, and I >> had the option to have touch ID included, then I'd go with the phone that >> offered me touch ID. I don't know if the demand is strong enough for Apple >> to consider this, or if Apple would even take this into account. I'd also be >> a little skeptical about reading Apple's reasons why they don't include >> touch ID. Sure, it may be because they think face ID is more secure, but >> they were also able to get rid of the home button and a finger print >> scanner. It'll be interesting to see if they consider in screen touch ID in >> the future. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Ed Worrell >> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 AM >> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 >> >> I really don't think Apple is going to utilize Touch ID in the iPhones going >> forward. Face ID works beautifully and it gets better with every release. >> >> Apple keeps updating patents for Touch ID which means they're actively >> working on it, but this also means if they keep updating the patents they >> haven't found the technology to work up to their standards. >> >> Just my two cents on the topic. >> >> Ed >> >> >>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> This was mentioned in a mac rumours release >>> >>> They believe the under screen touch id will be in the 2023 release >>> of the iPhone and a folding iPhone in 2024 >>> >>> Me, >>> Don't care >>> I just know it will get here when it gets here. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:13 am >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 >>> >>> Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or >>> incorporate a Touch Id side button?? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of Kelly Pierce >>> Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14 >>> >>> Links worked fine. 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