Neil,

I read the article before I sent my earlier message.  Sitting on our
duffs and tweeting does not hold entities accountable to third
parties.  Only a court can order a company to provide accessibility or
face significant penalties.  Beyond that, I like Joe’s idea of joining
an Applevis app access campaign or folks posting reviews and articles
on mainstream technology websites.

Kelly




On 11/12/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you, I will write you off list…
>
> Can I ask for a Tweet from the article never the less please? thanks.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Barnfather
>
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>
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>
> On 12 Nov 2012, at 15:00, Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Good article, and I'm all about social networking to advance causes. Yet,
>> app development is too fragmented for this to be a good vehicle. The
>> better
>> way of going about this is by supporting the AppleVis campaigns that
>> target
>> specific developers at a time. Also, take to writing to public forums
>> where
>> the audience is not primarily blind. Twitter could serve that function,
>> but
>> Twitter is also busy. You don't come across what you're not looking for.
>> CNET is one good venue. Gizmoto is another. Maybe consider writing an
>> article to be floated around ArsTechnica. More is likely to come from
>> hitting up those venues. Overall though, I agree, and I will do what I
>> can
>> to support your efforts. Personally, I think Microsoft has taken a good
>> first step by adding a disclaimer to items on its Store as to whether it
>> is
>> thought to be accessible or not. Maybe we ought to turn similar efforts
>> to
>> Apple to begin making accessibility ratings a part of its Store. I'm not
>> all
>> about leveraging legal and ethical arguments. A developer does not sit
>> down
>> to think about moral values when designing applications. They're thinking
>> about their primary customer base. That happens not to be us, which is
>> unfortunate, but they can learn differently if we take a strategic
>> approach
>> to educating them about the benefits of opening their apps to an even
>> larger
>> audience. Just some thoughts.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:28 AM
>> To: The Accessible Phones Discussion List; Talks Mailing List;
>> [email protected]; [email protected];
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: A stance against inaccessibility...
>> Importance: High
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Forgive the cross list posting, but, I like many of you feel that the
>> time
>> has come to stand up and be counted with regards to inaccessible Apps,
>> and
>> those who produce them. Please see my below article, and if you agree,
>> please I urge you to use the Twitter link at the end and Tweet this as
>> much
>> as is possible. We need to stand up, and be counted in our collective
>> community.
>>
>> I would ask all of you to Tweet this and RT as much as is humanly
>> possible.
>> Lets see if we can make a difference today...
>>
>> I wanted you to see this article:
>> http://www.neilbarnfather.com/accessibility-matters-sonos
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Neil Barnfather
>>
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>> accessible
>> phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - [email protected]
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
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