thank you Garry, the campaign is on the road now, and we very much need our 
collective efforts to get this one moving… today this maybe about Sonos, 
something you yourself may not use, but, remember this is a test bed for this 
today, tomorrow it maybe that one thing you really want to work, and knowing 
your blind friends from around the world have your back may mean everything to 
you.



Regards,

Neil Barnfather

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On 12 Nov 2012, at 19:05, Garry Turkington <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Firstly thanks to Neil for approaching this in the way he has.
> Whenever I engage with a technology or service provider on
> accessibility issues I always initially push it as something that they
> should want to do.  Past that point it moves into them doing it
> because it isn't something they want to be publically known for not
> doing.  And only lastly do I try to lean on the legal angles; if the
> focus is on legalities from day 1 then I worry that problems of
> compliance to the exact letter of the law becomes the goal and often
> that's really not the ideal.
> 
> So yes I concur that the legal avenues have their utility but I
> commend Neil on engaging with Sonus over such an extended period and
> using non-trivial amounts of his own time in trying to work with the
> company.  But if after being shown the issues over an extended period
> the company still makes the decision not to address them -- ignorance
> of inaccessibility is no longer a defence -- then a social media
> campaign is completely warranted.
> 
> Garry
> 
> On 11/12/12, BBS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Neil. Thanks for giving Facebook users a chance to let our voices be
>> heard. I don't have Twitter because I'm a guy that likes to express his
>> feelings and 140 characters isn't enough for me.
>> 
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