I've done all the thingds you suggest but I am still having the issue
where I am unable to swipe through my subscriptions. As someone else
described when I attempt to swipe right the focus just bounces back to
the first subscription name. The only way I can move from one to the
next is to drag my finger down the screen. I will be reporting to
apple accessibility. I'm running the latest iOS on an SE 2nd
generation.




On 3/3/23, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't have this issue, I can stop on the first one and even go into it and
> back out and then continue and also swipe left again. I have currently 3
> active and 1 inactive subscriptions. Anybody who still has issues should
> close all apps and reboot and also say which device they use so it is
> possible to see if this is only happening on certain devices.
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
> CrazyEyez
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 11:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> This is true. If you stop on a subscription, you can't go further to the
> right to see the next one.
> Really easy fix though.
> Slide 1 finger from top to bottom and it should work for you that way.
> Not the most ideal way to do things, but i'd rather have this than nothing
> at all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 2:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hi no it is not gone as far as the subscription bug now when you swipe right
> vo reads the subscriptions but you can’t swipe left since vo will continu to
> read the subscription again and again and again so if you have 3
> subscriptions vo will only read the first one in the list and nothing
> changes when you choose the picker and choose things like date I am using a
> I phone 8. From Mich.
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
> CrazyEyez
> Sent: March 2, 2023 2:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> Hello,
>
> The bug appears to have been squished.
> From my understanding it had something to do with apple servers and not the
> IOS itself.
>
> Currently as of this writing, I can open app store, tap my account,
> subscriptions and they display correctly.
> I'm on an iPhone 14 plus running IOS 16.3.1.
>
> Also good luck with your call tonight. 😄
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Ellie Hopper
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>
> I have a call booked for this evening with someone from Apple's support team
> to talk about this. I haven't gone this rout for an issue before so wish me
> luck.
>
> Ellie
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jessica Dail
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi,
> This screen is read correctly with voiceover on my iPhone 13 pro max which
> is running the ios16.4 developer beta but on my iPad pro 11-inch 3rd
> generation, this screen is still broken. I’m not on the beta on my ipad, but
> am seriously considering changing that.
> Can anyone else on here who has an iPad confirm the same behavior?
> Thanks,
> Jessica Dail
>
>
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 4:52 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> It is fixed for me,  also.
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> This has been fixed at least for me as of just now (9:30 PM Pacific Time).
> My subscriptions read again perfectly with when they expire/renew etc.
> This is not iOS dependent since as Davy reported, this was happening on iOS
> 15, the public release version of iOS 16 as well as the Beta.
> When I checked it tonight it already worked for me before I upgraded to iOS
> 16.4 public beta 2 and it still is fine after the update.
>
>
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of
> William James
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 2:18 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> It is still present on iOS 16.4 Beta 2.  Definitely not directly related to
> iOS.
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of
> Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:52:45 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> I received a reply from Apple Accessibility this morning which states that
> they are aware of the issue and they are investigating.
> I assume this may have had something to do with the App Store and certain
> App Store changes have always been done on the backend and they are not
> necessarily connected to iOS itself which would explain why this is
> happening with iOS 15, iOS 16.3 as well as iOS 16.4 public beta.
> I would think this is something which Apple will fix sooner rather than
> later.
> As for using screen recognition this still does not work for me even if I
> wait 10 seconds or 20 seconds, I have backed out of subscriptions after
> turning it on and gone back and it does not give me anything except what I
> also see without screen recognition.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:12 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> Thats not 100% right, the apps for which I had subscribed yes I can click
> them all but I donot know which I have been selecting while these buttons
> are not labeled at least for me.
> Davy
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Namens Vicky
> Collins
> Verzonden: dinsdag 28 februari 2023 6:18
> Aan: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Onderwerp: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama
> for VIPS
>
> Although it wouldn’t be ideal by any means, when I checked just now, I could
> turn on screen recognition while in the list of apps to which I was
> subscribed, and I could then actually view that list of applications. I
> could also double tap on one of the apps to which I was subscribed, then
> turn off screen recognition, And then I could see the option to cancel that
> subscription if I wanted to do so.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 27, 2023, at 11:14 PM, Arnold Schmidt
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> After experienncing the same results as reported, I decided to call Apple
>> Accessibility, rather than email. He tested it on his iphone and was
>> rewarded with the same mess. He says that Apple already had had several
>> reports about it, he added mine to the list, along with his own results. I
>> guess a problem gets more attention when the acccessibility representative
>> gets the same results as the complaintants. I was told that they are
>> "looking into it", and that it will be fixed in "a future update." I am
>> glad I didn't wait until the last minute to change a subscription. And how
>> could this have gott, past the beta testers? Are there beta testers?
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:32 PM,
>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Please folks, Sieghards posting is really 100% the way things are
>> displayed no wand please people stop saying this is not a bug or this or
>> that or try screen recognition it makes really no sense even if you can
>> click the buttons then and you donot know what subscription you select.
>> Please people do report this tramendous new under the hood bug!
>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> and stop
>> convincing others of this problem not being a bug, this is eventually a
>> bug!
>> Davy
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Namens
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 23:18
>> Aan: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Onderwerp: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to
>> manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and
>> more a drama for VIPS
>>
>> That must have changed in the last 4-6 weeks because I remember at some
>> point in January I had a look at this because my wife has a yearly
>> subscription for an app/service and it was showing up. I can confirm
>> Davy's finding and this by the way is also now on iOS 16.4 public beta so
>> apparently it makes no difference whether the iOS version is 15, 16 or
>> 16.4 beta.
>> I agree with Davy in this case, people should definitely report this. I
>> did also try this with screen recognition turned on and it makes no
>> difference. I get 3 headings, Active, Inactive and Options. Under Options
>> Voiceover correctly reads whether the "Share with Family" option is
>> checked or not.
>> Under "Active" I find a pop up button which allows you to pick app name,
>> price or renewal date to sort your subscriptions, but while I can pick any
>> of these options, after I do I still don't see any apps/services listed.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of
>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 1:40 PM
>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to
>> manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and
>> more a drama for VIPS
>>
>> It is about the appstore and all subscriptions randomly of apps for which
>> you have probably subscribed.
>> Davy
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Namens
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 22:37
>> Aan: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>> Onderwerp: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to
>> manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and
>> more a drama for VIPS
>>
>> I would consider reporting, but I have no idea what subscriptions you were
>> talking about? Which application and what service?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2023, at 4:01 PM,
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> Even with ios15 it is nolonger possible to manage ones subscriptions.
>>>
>>> The only thing you hear is active and inactive but Apple has made
>>> this window totally unaccessible for voiceover users.
>>>
>>> Folks, please, please please do not be lazy and again and again;
>>> please report this awful bug to
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> again and
>>> again, over and over until they fix this crab!
>>> DO REPORT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Davy
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