Well, here all is perfect for me, nothing is spoken twice or not at all, I can swipe right and left and it's as I said 100% good. If you haven't done so maybe close all apps from the app switcher and reboot to see if that helps, also make sure you don't have screen recognition on for Settings.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 8:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: problem solved - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS Hi sieghard I am not gona complain again this time but for me all things are spoken twice now but twice is better than nothing (grin) 😊 Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: vrijdag 3 maart 2023 20:21 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS No issues here whatsoever on my iPhone 13 Pro. I can swipe right and left, I can go into a subscription and I actually just cancelled an annual subscription which only renewed recently but which we probably won't renew next year. All was perfect. Anybody who still has issues should maybe close all apps from the app switcher and do a reboot to see if that helps. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca<mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 11:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS Hi no it is not gone as far as the subscription bug now when you swipe right vo reads the subscriptions but you can’t swipe left since vo will continu to read the subscription again and again and again so if you have 3 subscriptions vo will only read the first one in the list and nothing changes when you choose the picker and choose things like date I am using a I phone 8. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: March 2, 2023 2:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS Hello, The bug appears to have been squished. >From my understanding it had something to do with apple servers and not the >IOS itself. Currently as of this writing, I can open app store, tap my account, subscriptions and they display correctly. I'm on an iPhone 14 plus running IOS 16.3.1. Also good luck with your call tonight. 😄 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Ellie Hopper <hopper...@gmail.com<mailto:hopper...@gmail.com>> wrote:  Hi, I have a call booked for this evening with someone from Apple's support team to talk about this. I haven't gone this rout for an issue before so wish me luck. Ellie On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jessica Dail <jldai...@outlook.com<mailto:jldai...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi, This screen is read correctly with voiceover on my iPhone 13 pro max which is running the ios16.4 developer beta but on my iPad pro 11-inch 3rd generation, this screen is still broken. I’m not on the beta on my ipad, but am seriously considering changing that. Can anyone else on here who has an iPad confirm the same behavior? Thanks, Jessica Dail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 4:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS It is fixed for me, also. Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:  This has been fixed at least for me as of just now (9:30 PM Pacific Time). My subscriptions read again perfectly with when they expire/renew etc. This is not iOS dependent since as Davy reported, this was happening on iOS 15, the public release version of iOS 16 as well as the Beta. When I checked it tonight it already worked for me before I upgraded to iOS 16.4 public beta 2 and it still is fine after the update. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of William James Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 2:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS It is still present on iOS 16.4 Beta 2. Definitely not directly related to iOS. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:52:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS I received a reply from Apple Accessibility this morning which states that they are aware of the issue and they are investigating. I assume this may have had something to do with the App Store and certain App Store changes have always been done on the backend and they are not necessarily connected to iOS itself which would explain why this is happening with iOS 15, iOS 16.3 as well as iOS 16.4 public beta. I would think this is something which Apple will fix sooner rather than later. As for using screen recognition this still does not work for me even if I wait 10 seconds or 20 seconds, I have backed out of subscriptions after turning it on and gone back and it does not give me anything except what I also see without screen recognition. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS Thats not 100% right, the apps for which I had subscribed yes I can click them all but I donot know which I have been selecting while these buttons are not labeled at least for me. Davy -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Vicky Collins Verzonden: dinsdag 28 februari 2023 6:18 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS Although it wouldn’t be ideal by any means, when I checked just now, I could turn on screen recognition while in the list of apps to which I was subscribed, and I could then actually view that list of applications. I could also double tap on one of the apps to which I was subscribed, then turn off screen recognition, And then I could see the option to cancel that subscription if I wanted to do so. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2023, at 11:14 PM, Arnold Schmidt > <als5...@gmail.com<mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > After experienncing the same results as reported, I decided to call Apple > Accessibility, rather than email. He tested it on his iphone and was rewarded > with the same mess. He says that Apple already had had several reports about > it, he added mine to the list, along with his own results. I guess a problem > gets more attention when the acccessibility representative gets the same > results as the complaintants. I was told that they are "looking into it", and > that it will be fixed in "a future update." I am glad I didn't wait until the > last minute to change a subscription. And how could this have gott, past the > beta testers? Are there beta testers? > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 > > On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:32 PM, > davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Please folks, Sieghards posting is really 100% the way things are displayed > no wand please people stop saying this is not a bug or this or that or try > screen recognition it makes really no sense even if you can click the buttons > then and you donot know what subscription you select. > Please people do report this tramendous new under the hood bug! > accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and stop convincing > others of this problem not being a bug, this is eventually a bug! > Davy > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens > Sieghard Weitzel > Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 23:18 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Onderwerp: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to > manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and > more a drama for VIPS > > That must have changed in the last 4-6 weeks because I remember at some point > in January I had a look at this because my wife has a yearly subscription for > an app/service and it was showing up. I can confirm Davy's finding and this > by the way is also now on iOS 16.4 public beta so apparently it makes no > difference whether the iOS version is 15, 16 or 16.4 beta. > I agree with Davy in this case, people should definitely report this. I did > also try this with screen recognition turned on and it makes no difference. I > get 3 headings, Active, Inactive and Options. Under Options Voiceover > correctly reads whether the "Share with Family" option is checked or not. > Under "Active" I find a pop up button which allows you to pick app name, > price or renewal date to sort your subscriptions, but while I can pick any of > these options, after I do I still don't see any apps/services listed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 1:40 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to > manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and > more a drama for VIPS > > It is about the appstore and all subscriptions randomly of apps for which you > have probably subscribed. > Davy > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens > Jonathan Cohn > Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 22:37 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Onderwerp: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to > manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and > more a drama for VIPS > > I would consider reporting, but I have no idea what subscriptions you were > talking about? 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