Hi,

It was the home and power button reset for 10 to 12 seconds that caused my
problem in the first place

Ron & Danvers


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: *Do! Not!* hard reset your iPhone. VoiceOver dies.

Hi.
The home and power button reset then. How about that? Lol.
On 2012-11-23, at 8:58 AM, Raul A. Gallegos <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Neil. I totally agree with you on this, but it was my understanding
that Matthew's initial message was referring to doing a reset via the power
and home button pressing for 12 seconds or more. Like the kind of reset you
do when the phone locks up or is doing odd things. I could be wrong though
so feel free to correct me.
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> On 11/23/2012 8:56 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>> I'm slightly confused here.
>> 
>> Doing a hard reset, i.e. going into Settings, General, Reset and 
>> "Reset All Settings and Erase Data", surely does exactly what it says 
>> on the tin, and I fail to see why you are surprised that Voice Over 
>> didn't come up talking following it, and that it had lost your settings.
>> 
>> A hard reset wipes the whole phone, the warning messages on the phone 
>> are very clear about this.
>> 
>> A soft reset though, which is the power and home keys held for a 
>> number of seconds, that should in theory not cause Voice Over to die 
>> and lose settings, but, never the less you are force quitting and 
>> making the phone do something that at the time it did not wish to do. 
>> as such, things do go wrong from time to time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> On 21 Nov 2012, at 01:35, Matthew Campbell <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> I had to hard reset my iPhone 4 this evening.
>>> When the phone booted up, VoiceOver did not come back, triple click 
>>> home no longer worked, and when I finally got VoiceOver back thanks 
>>> to iTunes all my VoiceOver settings were back to factory defaults.
>>> This is just a warning to not hard reset your iPhone unless you 
>>> absolutely must.
>>> I just sent a message off to Apple accessibility, and am waiting to 
>>> hear back. I'm hoping that it's something that can be fixed easily.
>>> Hope this helps someone.
>>> Matthew Campbell.
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