Sandy had a great message. As to my fellow fellas... Rather than be anal about how people complain too much, why not point folks to places where they can learn more about how to use the platform? You're no better than the whiners if all we do is clutter the list with observations about how people should be grateful. For my part, I think AppleVis.com is a great website. The AppleVis podcast is also good, as well as Triple Click Home podcast. You don't need an iDevice to access these programs. Lisa Salinger has produced some good demos of some apps and beginning training tutorials for iOS users. There's a book published by National Braille Press whose title escapes me, but Anna Dresner, a fellow subscriber, is its author. Don't get me wrong. I think people should give iOS a try and really peddle around a bit before deciding it's too hard or not for them, but criticizing isn't helping anyone to your cause. Hope that helps.--Joe
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective There are people who will complain no matter what. They'll complain if it's too hot, too cold, rainy, dry, etc. There are people who always see the glass as half empty. I try not to listen to or take such complaints seriously. Andy -----Original Message----- From: James Mannion Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective Definitely agreed! Maybe I have missed and and am not finding some posts, but complaining about a lack of being easy to use??? Complaining about level of over all accessibility?? I think if people are complaining about it not being easy enough to use or an over all lack in accessibility, they need to examine the validity of their expectations. They should have to use what is on another platform for a week. They should take a look at if the problem simply lies with their understanding of how to use the technology and not entirely the technology's fault. Bashing the accessibility Apple has given us on IOS is quite likely acting spoiled and inconsiderate of one's own responsibility to learn and understand what they are critizising. On 12/21/12, Sandy Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lately there has been some frustration expressed on this list about > accessibility and ease of use of Apple products. I hope that what I > have to say here will help some put this in perspective. > > > > I bought an iPod for Christmas for my sighted husband. Because we are > traveling for Christmas I gave it to him last evening. He has never > used an iPhone and while bright, techy stuff is not his priority. I > loaded onto it our entire digitized music collection plus his almost > 1,500 digital photos, and a few apps I thought he'd like. As I > showed him how to use it I had one of those ahah! Moments. I was > saying things like, "That bottom row is called the doc" and "there's a > download button up there on the right" > and "tap play list on the bottom." > > As far as I know the iPhone is one of the few products that is not > only accessible, but we have a fairly accurate picture of the location > of items on the screen. Perhaps it's due to my technological > inferiority but I know that when he and I navigate a web page together > in Internet Explorer I don't have a good picture of what is where from > his perspective and he doesn't understand mine either. To say that he > was impressed with my newfound orientation to the screen is an > understatement. I bought that iPod, showed my stepson how to activate > VO and then took it over and set it up myself. > To me this is very powerful stuff. > > > > Apple isn't perfect and I got frustrated just the other day figuring > out how to enter all of my trips into Flight Few, but we've come a > very long way from my college years with a slate and stylus, Braille > writer, four-track, reel-to-reel tape recorder and portable > typewriter. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
