Agreed. I would hate for people with issues to be afraid to voice there frustrations because they think they will be picked upon. Just as a friendly reminder, you can contact Apple at accessibil...@apple.com and make them aware of any bugs, enhancement request, or thanks you have.
haha. Just my 2 cents. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Joe <jsoro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sandy had a great message. As to my fellow fellas... Rather than be anal > about how people complain too much, why not point folks to places where they > can learn more about how to use the platform? You're no better than the > whiners if all we do is clutter the list with observations about how people > should be grateful. For my part, I think AppleVis.com is a great website. > The AppleVis podcast is also good, as well as Triple Click Home podcast. You > don't need an iDevice to access these programs. Lisa Salinger has produced > some good demos of some apps and beginning training tutorials for iOS users. > There's a book published by National Braille Press whose title escapes me, > but Anna Dresner, a fellow subscriber, is its author. Don't get me wrong. I > think people should give iOS a try and really peddle around a bit before > deciding it's too hard or not for them, but criticizing isn't helping anyone > to your cause. Hope that helps.--Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Andy Baracco > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective > > There are people who will complain no matter what. They'll complain if it's > too hot, too cold, rainy, dry, etc. There are people who always see the > glass as half empty. I try not to listen to or take such complaints > seriously. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Mannion > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective > > Definitely agreed! Maybe I have missed and and am not finding some posts, > but complaining about a lack of being easy to use??? > Complaining about level of over all accessibility?? I think if people are > complaining about it not being easy enough to use or an over all lack in > accessibility, they need to examine the validity of their expectations. They > should have to use what is on another platform for a week. They should take > a look at if the problem simply lies with their understanding of how to use > the technology and not entirely the technology's fault. Bashing the > accessibility Apple has given us on IOS is quite likely acting spoiled and > inconsiderate of one's own responsibility to learn and understand what they > are critizising. > > On 12/21/12, Sandy Finley <finleykn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Lately there has been some frustration expressed on this list about >> accessibility and ease of use of Apple products. I hope that what I >> have to say here will help some put this in perspective. >> >> >> >> I bought an iPod for Christmas for my sighted husband. Because we are >> traveling for Christmas I gave it to him last evening. He has never >> used an iPhone and while bright, techy stuff is not his priority. I >> loaded onto it our entire digitized music collection plus his almost >> 1,500 digital photos, and a few apps I thought he'd like. As I >> showed him how to use it I had one of those ahah! Moments. I was >> saying things like, "That bottom row is called the doc" and "there's a >> download button up there on the right" >> and "tap play list on the bottom." >> >> As far as I know the iPhone is one of the few products that is not >> only accessible, but we have a fairly accurate picture of the location >> of items on the screen. Perhaps it's due to my technological >> inferiority but I know that when he and I navigate a web page together >> in Internet Explorer I don't have a good picture of what is where from >> his perspective and he doesn't understand mine either. To say that he >> was impressed with my newfound orientation to the screen is an >> understatement. I bought that iPod, showed my stepson how to activate >> VO and then took it over and set it up myself. >> To me this is very powerful stuff. >> >> >> >> Apple isn't perfect and I got frustrated just the other day figuring >> out how to enter all of my trips into Flight Few, but we've come a >> very long way from my college years with a slate and stylus, Braille >> writer, four-track, reel-to-reel tape recorder and portable >> typewriter. >> >> >> >> Sandy >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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