Just today I was riding in the car with my wife, grumbling about not
being able to send my friend a video. After a couple of minutes, I
realized what I was doing wrong, of course there was nothing wrong
with the iPhone, and sent the video.

I said to my wife," I know I complain about this thing, but it is
pretty incredible that a blind guy can send a friend a thousand miles
away a video from a moving car."

She said it was good to hear me say that.

Chuck


On Dec 21, 11:34 pm, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hmm,  I don't think I said people have been frustrated in the iPhones 
> accessibility or ease of use.  I just said issues that are causing them 
> frustration.  I was speaking in general terms.  And I definitely agree people 
> should make Apple aware of bugs, and overall dissatisfaction.  Hence the 
> information to contact them in my post.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
> Twitter:@apple2thecorewww.appletothecore.info
>
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:28 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I haven't seen any posts on this list expressing a frustration in the
> > iPhone's accessibility or ease of use. People have reported bugs and
> > expressed some frustration in those bugs, but I don't see a problem with
> > that. Just as people shouldn't whine or complain incessantly, people
> > also shouldn't be looking at things through rose coloured glasses. Just
> > because we have it better off than we did 10 years ago, doesn't mean
> > things are perfect or can't get any better. If we didn't report
> > problems, Apple or any company could get complacent.
>
> > On 21/12/12 18:25, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> >> Agreed.  I would hate for people with issues to be afraid to voice there 
> >> frustrations because they think they will be picked upon.  Just as a 
> >> friendly reminder, you can contact Apple at [email protected] and 
> >> make them aware of any bugs, enhancement request, or thanks you have.
>
> >> haha. Just my 2 cents.
>
> >> Ricardo Walker
> >> [email protected]
> >> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> >>www.appletothecore.info
>
> >> On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Sandy had a great message. As to my fellow fellas... Rather than be anal
> >>> about how people complain too much, why not point folks to places where 
> >>> they
> >>> can learn more about how to use the platform? You're no better than the
> >>> whiners if all we do is clutter the list with observations about how 
> >>> people
> >>> should be grateful. For my part, I think AppleVis.com is a great website.
> >>> The AppleVis podcast is also good, as well as Triple Click Home podcast. 
> >>> You
> >>> don't need an iDevice to access these programs. Lisa Salinger has produced
> >>> some good demos of some apps and beginning training tutorials for iOS 
> >>> users.
> >>> There's a book published by National Braille Press whose title escapes me,
> >>> but Anna Dresner, a fellow subscriber, is its author. Don't get me wrong. 
> >>> I
> >>> think people should give iOS a try and really peddle around a bit before
> >>> deciding it's too hard or not for them, but criticizing isn't helping 
> >>> anyone
> >>> to your cause. Hope that helps.--Joe
>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> >>> Of Andy Baracco
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:22 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective
>
> >>> There are people who will complain no matter what.  They'll complain if 
> >>> it's
> >>> too hot, too cold, rainy, dry, etc.  There are people who always see the
> >>> glass as half empty.  I try not to listen to or take such complaints
> >>> seriously.
>
> >>> Andy
>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: James Mannion
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:58 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective
>
> >>> Definitely agreed! Maybe I have missed and and am not finding some posts,
> >>> but complaining about a lack of being easy to use???
> >>> Complaining about level of over all accessibility?? I think if people are
> >>> complaining about it not being easy enough to use or an over all lack in
> >>> accessibility, they need to examine the validity of their expectations. 
> >>> They
> >>> should have to use what is on another platform for a week. They should 
> >>> take
> >>> a look at if the problem simply lies with their understanding of how to 
> >>> use
> >>> the technology and not entirely the technology's fault. Bashing the
> >>> accessibility Apple has given us on IOS is quite likely acting spoiled and
> >>> inconsiderate of one's own responsibility to learn and understand what 
> >>> they
> >>> are critizising.
>
> >>> On 12/21/12, Sandy Finley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Lately there has been some frustration expressed on this list about
> >>>> accessibility and ease of use of Apple products. I hope that what I
> >>>> have to say here will help some put this in perspective.
>
> >>>> I bought an iPod for Christmas for my sighted husband. Because we are
> >>>> traveling for Christmas I gave it to him  last evening.  He has never
> >>>> used an iPhone and while bright, techy stuff is not his priority.  I
> >>>> loaded onto it our entire digitized music collection plus his almost
> >>>> 1,500 digital photos, and a few apps I thought he'd like.  As I
> >>>> showed him how to use it I  had one of those ahah! Moments.  I was
> >>>> saying things like, "That bottom row is called the doc" and "there's a
> >>>> download button up there on the right"
> >>>> and "tap play list on the bottom."
>
> >>>> As far as I know the iPhone is one of the few products that is not
> >>>> only accessible, but we have a fairly accurate picture of the location
> >>>> of items on the screen.  Perhaps it's due to my technological
> >>>> inferiority but I know that when he and I navigate a web page together
> >>>> in Internet Explorer I don't have a good picture of what is where from
> >>>> his perspective and he doesn't understand mine either. To say that he
> >>>> was impressed with my newfound orientation to the screen is an
> >>>> understatement. I bought that iPod, showed my stepson how to activate
> >>>> VO  and then took it over and set it up myself.
> >>>> To me this is very powerful stuff.
>
> >>>> Apple isn't perfect and I got frustrated just the other day figuring
> >>>> out how to enter all of my trips into Flight Few, but we've come a
> >>>> very long way from my college years with a slate and stylus, Braille
> >>>> writer, four-track, reel-to-reel tape recorder and portable
> >>>> typewriter.
>
> >>>> Sandy
>
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