Hmm, I don't think I said people have been frustrated in the iPhones accessibility or ease of use. I just said issues that are causing them frustration. I was speaking in general terms. And I definitely agree people should make Apple aware of bugs, and overall dissatisfaction. Hence the information to contact them in my post.
Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:28 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > I haven't seen any posts on this list expressing a frustration in the > iPhone's accessibility or ease of use. People have reported bugs and > expressed some frustration in those bugs, but I don't see a problem with > that. Just as people shouldn't whine or complain incessantly, people > also shouldn't be looking at things through rose coloured glasses. Just > because we have it better off than we did 10 years ago, doesn't mean > things are perfect or can't get any better. If we didn't report > problems, Apple or any company could get complacent. > > On 21/12/12 18:25, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Agreed. I would hate for people with issues to be afraid to voice there >> frustrations because they think they will be picked upon. Just as a >> friendly reminder, you can contact Apple at [email protected] and make >> them aware of any bugs, enhancement request, or thanks you have. >> >> haha. Just my 2 cents. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> [email protected] >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sandy had a great message. As to my fellow fellas... Rather than be anal >>> about how people complain too much, why not point folks to places where they >>> can learn more about how to use the platform? You're no better than the >>> whiners if all we do is clutter the list with observations about how people >>> should be grateful. For my part, I think AppleVis.com is a great website. >>> The AppleVis podcast is also good, as well as Triple Click Home podcast. You >>> don't need an iDevice to access these programs. Lisa Salinger has produced >>> some good demos of some apps and beginning training tutorials for iOS users. >>> There's a book published by National Braille Press whose title escapes me, >>> but Anna Dresner, a fellow subscriber, is its author. Don't get me wrong. I >>> think people should give iOS a try and really peddle around a bit before >>> deciding it's too hard or not for them, but criticizing isn't helping anyone >>> to your cause. Hope that helps.--Joe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Andy Baracco >>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:22 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective >>> >>> There are people who will complain no matter what. They'll complain if it's >>> too hot, too cold, rainy, dry, etc. There are people who always see the >>> glass as half empty. I try not to listen to or take such complaints >>> seriously. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: James Mannion >>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 4:58 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: iPhone: Some Perspective >>> >>> Definitely agreed! Maybe I have missed and and am not finding some posts, >>> but complaining about a lack of being easy to use??? >>> Complaining about level of over all accessibility?? I think if people are >>> complaining about it not being easy enough to use or an over all lack in >>> accessibility, they need to examine the validity of their expectations. They >>> should have to use what is on another platform for a week. They should take >>> a look at if the problem simply lies with their understanding of how to use >>> the technology and not entirely the technology's fault. Bashing the >>> accessibility Apple has given us on IOS is quite likely acting spoiled and >>> inconsiderate of one's own responsibility to learn and understand what they >>> are critizising. >>> >>> On 12/21/12, Sandy Finley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Lately there has been some frustration expressed on this list about >>>> accessibility and ease of use of Apple products. I hope that what I >>>> have to say here will help some put this in perspective. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I bought an iPod for Christmas for my sighted husband. Because we are >>>> traveling for Christmas I gave it to him last evening. He has never >>>> used an iPhone and while bright, techy stuff is not his priority. I >>>> loaded onto it our entire digitized music collection plus his almost >>>> 1,500 digital photos, and a few apps I thought he'd like. As I >>>> showed him how to use it I had one of those ahah! Moments. I was >>>> saying things like, "That bottom row is called the doc" and "there's a >>>> download button up there on the right" >>>> and "tap play list on the bottom." >>>> >>>> As far as I know the iPhone is one of the few products that is not >>>> only accessible, but we have a fairly accurate picture of the location >>>> of items on the screen. Perhaps it's due to my technological >>>> inferiority but I know that when he and I navigate a web page together >>>> in Internet Explorer I don't have a good picture of what is where from >>>> his perspective and he doesn't understand mine either. To say that he >>>> was impressed with my newfound orientation to the screen is an >>>> understatement. I bought that iPod, showed my stepson how to activate >>>> VO and then took it over and set it up myself. >>>> To me this is very powerful stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Apple isn't perfect and I got frustrated just the other day figuring >>>> out how to enter all of my trips into Flight Few, but we've come a >>>> very long way from my college years with a slate and stylus, Braille >>>> writer, four-track, reel-to-reel tape recorder and portable >>>> typewriter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sandy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google >>>> Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >> > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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