Hi: The users guide doesn't say whether the maps are on the phone or not. I would like to know the answer to that as well. Also I haven't heard anything about when the app will be released.
On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Charles, > > I am not sure what part of the website you found that talks about maps > being > on the phone. Maybe it's in the user guide which I admit I haven't read and > probably won't read until I have the app, but here is the entire blurb I > found on Sendero's website about the Seeing Eye app and I don't see any > reference to whether maps will be on a server or stored on the phone. Maybe > for some of those who haven't bothered going to the website this will be > useful and I have also included the link to the user manual below the app > description for those who want to read it: > > Announcing Seeing Eye GPS App > > Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years > of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero > GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the > beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully > accessible GPS product for the iPhone. Thank you to all of those who have > volunteered to participate in the preview. We have received a more > enthusiastic response than we anticipated, close to 300 people in less than > 24 hours, and we are no longer able to accept any more entries and will > randomly select 100 from the 300 who have already signed up. Seeing Eye GPS > has maps for North America only. Once we release Seeing Eye GPS, we will be > working on a version for UK and Europe customers. > > About Seeing Eye GPS > > Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a > guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two > pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up > to > provide a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal > navigation features plus features unique to blind users. > > . Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation elements > are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location. > . At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are > announced. > . Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation of > the streets. > . There are three choices for POI data (Navteq, Foursquare, and OSM) and > two > map sources (Navteq and OSM). > . Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle routes > including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, > continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located. > . When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated and > updated turn information is announced. > . Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the > LookAround Wand. > . Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced. > > Check out the User's Guide for details on all features: > http://www.senderogroup.com/support/supportseeingeye.htm > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Charles Dean > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 > Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! > > I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before > they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include > maps > on the phone. > > Chuck (mobile) > Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. > > On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Bob, >> >> Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I > doubt >> they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind >> that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts > of >> data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I used to be > on >> a flex plan and I have a hard time using even 1 Gig of data a month, of >> course I am not streaming music all day long through my phone, but I am > also >> not particularly careful, I download apps via 3G, make VoIP calls via 3G > and >> even download or stream the occasional podcast. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Robert Fenton >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 >> Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! >> >> Hello. >> >> The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I >> would >> be paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be >> purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if >> Canadian maps are not available or if maps are only available via data > plan. >> The latter factor would substantially increase my bottom line cost for > using >> the app since at the time of purchasing my cell phone contract, no > unlimited >> data plans were available in the jurisdiction where I live. >> >> So, my initial question about price was a relatively simple one. I had no >> idea the discussion would take the philosophical turns it has. Sorry if > that >> has bothered anybody. J >> >> Bob Fenton >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-02-27, at 8:15 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >>> It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless >>> of course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much. >>> This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. >>> It's also human nature and not specific to the blind. >>> >>> There are also those who will label it as a blind ghetto product and >>> avoid it at all costs with the belief that main stream products should >>> be made more accessible rather than investing in applications specific >>> for the blind. I respect those who share this opinion, but I'm more >>> pragmatic than religious on this point, i.e. I'll use whatever I need >>> to to get the job done. I think my independence and ability to compete >>> with my sighted peers does more to promote the independence of the >>> blind than it does for me to avoid a product developed with the blind in >> mind. >>> Again, this is just my opinion, and I definitely respect those with a >>> contrary opinion. >>> >>> Finally, I can only speak for myself, but I'm not really too >>> interested in what others think about whether a price is fair or not. >>> As Raul says, this is a decision I'm going to make myself anyway. >>> >>> On 27/02/13 08:11, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>>> One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, >>>> Apple will be nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the >>>> criticisms begin to flow. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Neil Barnfather >>>> >>>> Talks List Administrator >>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>> >>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an >>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all >>>> your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit >>>> www.talknav.com <http://www.talknav.com> >>>> >>>> URL: - www.talknav.com <http://www.talknav.com> >>>> e-mail: - [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>>> >>>> On 27 Feb 2013, at 06:49, Charles Dean <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve >>>>> hundred dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think >>>>> it was worth every penny. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears >>>>> with a higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. >>>>> >>>>> If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter >>>>> what the costs. >>>>> >>>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>>> Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how >>>>>> much is this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific >>>>>> installs for the braille note and braille cents products cost more >>>>>> than $600. Also remember that many commercial GPS apps for the >>>>>> iPhone itself can cost anywhere from $25-$55. I have no idea what >>>>>> the price for this app will be, however I do know that once that >>>>>> price is announced if people don't like it there will definitely be >>>>>> a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this >>>>>> because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price >>>>>> is more than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. >>>>>> I can look through the archives and discussions of the access >>>>>> notetaker app, blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and >>>>>> the various daisy readers Have mostly initially been met with > criticism >> over the price. >>>>>> Some people will purchase the app despite the cost because they >>>>>> want to support the developer. Others will purchase the app because >>>>>> it is worth it to them. And still others might wait for the app to >>>>>> go on sale before they make a purchase. My purchasing history shows >>>>>> that depending on the app in question I could fall into any of >>>>>> those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps which I >>>>>> purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and >>>>>> looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And >>>>>> finally, apps light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have >>>>>> not purchased and don't intend to. So my only point in writing this >>>>>> message is to remind everyone, including myself, that no matter >>>>>> what the price of a new app is, we will have to decide for >>>>>> ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our personal >>>>>> needs and the features contained in the app. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi List, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one >>>>>>> of the best news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM >>>>>>> maps as well as POI's from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should >>>>>>> really provide very good and up-to-date map and POI information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one >>>>>>> will most likely make some others redundant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding >>>>>>> the project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than >>>>>>> we all may think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM >>>>>>> *To:* ViPone list >>>>>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wasn't sure if this had been seen on this list: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:*[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kim Casey >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM >>>>>>> *To:* 'Kim Casey' >>>>>>> *Subject:* Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new >>>>>>> 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. >>>>>>> Almost 20 years of user feedback and feature requests are behind >>>>>>> the design of all Sendero GPS products. The accessible features >>>>>>> in Seeing Eye GPS are only the beginning of what is yet to come >>>>>>> as users help in evolving this first fully accessible GPS >>>>>>> product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us >>>>>>> at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a >>>>>>> link for a Test Flight as soon as it is available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About Seeing Eye GPS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Getting around independently is a function of good mobility >>>>>>> tools like a guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like >>>>>>> accessible GPS. Two pioneers in their fields, The Seeing Eye and >>>>>>> Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a fully accessible >>>>>>> turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation >>>>>>> features plus features unique to blind users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important >>>>>>> navigation elements are on the lower portion of every screen, >>>>>>> Route, POIs and Location. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel >>>>>>> are announced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face >>>>>>> orientation of the streets. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and >>>>>>> vehicle routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the >>>>>>> turn now indication, continue straight and where the subsequent >>>>>>> turn is located. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically >>>>>>> recalculated and updated turn information is announced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby >>>>>>> with the LookAround Wand. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically >>>>>>> announced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For more information go to >>>>>>> http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New 2013 Sendero products >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to >>>>>>> Sendero PC Maps and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and >>>>>>> ultrabooks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and >>>>>>> Mobile Geo plus much faster POI searches >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not going to CSUN - No problem! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join >>>>>>> in the fun and listen into the following presentations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype >>>>>>> iPhone People Finder App >>>>>>> >>>>>>> March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS >>>>>>> iPhone App >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just go to: >>>>>>> http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2 >>>>>>> at the scheduled session time. 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