Yes, and the trial / demo ware is either limited, or is tied to the computer clock. In the PC, software spreads itself all around, so it is extremely difficult for a hacker to crack it. In the iOS system with the app completely sandboxed away, the situation is completely different.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 05/08/2013, at 11:41, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure we're talking about a complete rewrite and restructuring of the > App Store. Apple has also demonstrated a commitment to accessibility in the > past. We're also not talking about shareware, which you're right, is getting > harder and harder to find and seems to be a failed business model. We're > talking about trials and demos, which are used by some pretty large and > successful companies. Most new PC's are filled with trialware from companies > like Symantec, Microsoft and so on. > > On 08/04/2013 06:34 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> Well, given how few blind people there are, and how few apps we actually >> buy compared with sighted people, and considering that this model would >> require a complete rewrite and restructuring of the App Store, I >> seriously doubt it would happen unless Apple receives a great many >> requests for such. >> >> The shareware model of computer software distribution does something >> like this. Save for small companies, shareware is not usually used >> because it does not typically make much money because people readily >> and easily crack the protection schemes. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 05/08/2013, at 11:12, Maria and Joe Chapman <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Hi. I was thinking more along the lines of the app could be >>> downloaded and is fully functional for a day unless you purchase a key >>> on the mac or do an in app purchase on the iphone. Some apps can be >>> rather expensive, I would not be willing to buy a 10 or 20 dollar app >>> I could not use and probably wouldn't unless I had heard it was at >>> least usable in some way with voice over. How many apps I wonder are >>> not discovered to be accessible because people are afraid to buy them >>> in case they are not usable? >>> >>> >>> regards >>> Maria and crew from australia >>> email: >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> check out >>> www.95-the-mix.com <http://www.95-the-mix.com> >>> where we play lots of great music >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 05/08/2013, at 9:01 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> I would rather not give Apple complete access to my phone just so >>>> they can occasionally check to ensure I am not pirating apps. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 05/08/2013, at 10:41, Maria and Joe Chapman >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> HI. wouldn't it work better if all apps could be downloaded for >>>>> free and trialled say for a day? There are lots of apps I'd love to >>>>> try but am hesitant to download due to the fact that there is really >>>>> no way to tell if they are accessible or not unless someone on list >>>>> or someone on applevis has tried them. I mean if it's a 99 c app >>>>> it's not that bad but if it's 5 or 10 bucks? That's going to get >>>>> expensive. >>>>> Warm regards and blessings >>>>> Maria, Joe and FurBabies >>>>> Email: iMessage:[email protected] <http://gmail.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 03/08/2013, at 6:02 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As I state in another message, I would be much more willing to >>>>>> support a general refund policy, such as Google has, or at least >>>>>> use to have, rather than an it won't work with VoiceOver policy. >>>>>> That is just too open to abuse. Besides, a general refund policy >>>>>> would be an even better way to let developers know if people didn't >>>>>> like their app, a bunch of them all requested refunds. It might >>>>>> even improve accessibility. >>>>>> Arnold Schmidt >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> *From:*Cara Quinn <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:*Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:58 AM >>>>>> *Subject:*Re: Bad experience with iTunes Store support >>>>>> regarding app refund >>>>>> >>>>>> Sieghard and All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me encourage you and actually everyone on this list to >>>>>> write Apple Accessibility to request that there be reasonable >>>>>> accommodation in place for VoiceOver users to receive app >>>>>> refunds in cases like Sieghard's. I'd also suggest that >>>>>> Sieghard's note be attached to your own. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe this issue needs to be brought into the forefront in >>>>>> a positive and decisive way. We are almost 2000 people on this >>>>>> list and this is a very good opportunity to make this point heard. >>>>>> >>>>>> This discussion has come up before of being alerted of VO >>>>>> accessibility ahead of time in the App Store and though we've >>>>>> not come to a set conclusion on the best way to do this, having >>>>>> some indication that an app has been found to be accessible to >>>>>> some degree with VoiceOver before we purchase it is a >>>>>> completely reasonable request. If this is not possible, then it >>>>>> is more than reasonable to ask for refunds if we cannot use an >>>>>> app which is not accessible to us with the available Apple >>>>>> universal access paradigm. >>>>>> >>>>>> the email address for Apple Accessibility is: >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> These are very caring people so please keep this in mind when >>>>>> you write. I've known some of them personally. They want to >>>>>> help though there may not be a clear way of making this happen >>>>>> just yet. Just let them know this is important though. Make >>>>>> your voice heard in a friendly way. they will listen to you >>>>>> even if they do not know the best answer yet. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks All, for your time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>> Cara :) >>>>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello List, >>>>>> Requesting a refund for an app which turns out not to work with >>>>>> Voiceover has come up a few times and the iTunes Store support >>>>>> email has been posted in connection with that. So I thought I >>>>>> post my recent experience with contacting iTunes Store support >>>>>> via their email. >>>>>> I had bought a couple of package tracking apps in order to find >>>>>> out which one I liked best. I have been using Track This which >>>>>> is awesome, but I am in Canada and for some reason they don’t >>>>>> support Purolator and CanPar which are both major carriers >>>>>> here. I contacted Track This support twice and never received a >>>>>> reply. >>>>>> Anyhow, back to iTunes Store support. I provided all the >>>>>> information including order numbers, purchase date, my Apple Id >>>>>> etc. I explained how I really enjoyed my iPhone and the >>>>>> fantastic accessibility, but that unfortunately these two apps >>>>>> I purchased were not voiceover friendly and there was no Light >>>>>> version offered which I could have tried first. I also >>>>>> mentioned that I contacted both developers and after almost a >>>>>> week had not received a reply. In short, I was friendly, >>>>>> explained everything and even waited to see if the developers >>>>>> would reply to see if they were willing to make Voiceover >>>>>> improvements. >>>>>> I received a prompt reply in which the agent explained that all >>>>>> app sales are final, but that given the situation they would >>>>>> refund me the $6.72 or whatever it was for the 2 apps. However, >>>>>> she also continued to give me links as to their terms and >>>>>> conditions and said that this was a one-time curtocy and that >>>>>> in the future they could not provide any more refunds and that >>>>>> it was up to me to make sure I didn’t turn on one-click >>>>>> ordering and accidently purchase apps or read the app >>>>>> description to be sure it was what I wanted. It was strange >>>>>> because all of this gave me the impression this person did not >>>>>> at all get the point about Voiceover and all that, but on the >>>>>> other hand she said they would give me a refund given the >>>>>> situation. According to what she said I should see the refund >>>>>> back on my account within 48 hours and since both apps were >>>>>> purchased using store credit it would come back as store >>>>>> credit. This is now 2 weeks ago and I replied twice to the >>>>>> initial message to explain that I still had not received the >>>>>> credit and I am getting no more replies. >>>>>> I guess what I want to say here is that those who have done >>>>>> this and received refunds are lucky, but it appears one should >>>>>> definitely not count on getting a refund even if an app turns >>>>>> out not to work with Voiceover. 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