I'll have to see if I can't find the page that I was looking at before and tested it with a window screen reader to see if I get the same results. I tend not to explore pages by touch, as I often find that getting to specific items on the page can be fiddlwy, considering how small text often is. This is a no fault of voiceover or anything, just that fingers are often bigger than text on the screen.
On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are starting your touch in the same location each time, this would be > expected. Note: same location in this case means, anywhere near the previous > touch such that the same object is highlighted. On webpages, different items > have different sizes. If you physically explore the display, you can get a > feel for how large any item actually is. > > That said, there are some more recent web technologies which force VO to > refresh to the top of the web page whenever you perform a navigation flick. > For these pages, three finger vertical flicks seem to force the page to > physically scroll to the next view. I personally have similar difficulties > navigating such pages using windows screen readers. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20/09/2013, at 6:55, Arianna <[email protected]> wrote: > >> David, I can't count the number of times I've done exactly that. >> Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that the bug in iOS 6 which makes Safari jump >> to a previous item on the page when just flicking through it is not a >> problem with my touching the screen. It always goes back to the exact same >> location each and every time. I'm pretty sure this is a bug, as my flicking >> down the page for a while should cause the text on the page to scroll. And >> if it was a problem with my touching the screen, it would jump to a new >> piece of text, not back to the same piece of text it did before. I hope that >> if this is a bug, it got fixed in iOS 7. I hope that made sense. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ari >> >> On Sep 19, 2013, at 10:20 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> When you touch the screen, if your finger is not already moving, VO focus >>> moves to the actual location on the display where your finger is touching. >>> Now, when your finger performs the finger flick, VO moves from its new >>> position on the display to the next position. This gives the appearance >>> that VO is jumping around the screen, when in actual fact, you are shifting >>> VO before you perform the flick. >>> >>> But wait, you say, I am not touching the screen before I start my flick. >>> This is actually something VO does not get confused about. The touchscreen >>> does not require any pressure whatsoever. When you hold your finger just >>> above the screen before starting your flick, if your finger is barely >>> touching the screen, so lightly that you do not feel it, this is enough >>> contact to activate the display and move VO focus to the actual location >>> where your finger is touching. Testing this in the lab demonstrates that >>> the finger can barely touch the screen enough to activate it and both >>> sighted and blind people do not register the haptic (tactual) sensation. >>> >>> An analogy is, when you are typing on a keyboard, pressing on the wrong >>> letter causes the wrong letter to appear in your document, no matter how >>> much you were thinking about pressing the correct letter. If your finger is >>> heavy on the wrong letter, the key repeat activates and you get a bunch of >>> the wrong letter in a row in your document. >>> >>> Start your flick gesture with your finger at least a quarter of an inch >>> above the display. This way, your finger is fully engaged in the flick >>> motion before it contacts the display. finally, lift your finger from the >>> display before you stop moving it. Exaggerate this motion until you >>> consistently flick without VO jumping randomly around the display. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 20/09/2013, at 4:54, "Sandra Heaton" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes it does I have noticed that as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sandra >>>> Braille Greeting Cards >>>> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:19 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping >>>> >>>> >>>> I can also reproduce this. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 12:18 PM, "rafal" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a problem with vo it's strange but vo jumps items when i flicking. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reiser" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:09 PM >>>>> Subject: Voice over jumps around when swiping >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter michaelsreiser >>>>> >>>>> Skype [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Facebook [email protected] from my iPhone hello all, >>>>> I noticed that in iOS 7, when I swipe around on the screen, voiceover >>>>> seems to skip items. It also seems to be much more sensitive than before. >>>>> Is there a new method that I need to know about when flicking around for >>>>> the screen? This is on an iPhone 4S. 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