Hi Christopher, I consider myself an experienced iOS and Voiceover user and I have no issues whatsoever on my 4S with what Rafal describes and still would like him to provide a very specific example with detailed information step by step as to what he is doing and what Voiceover is doing.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping IMHO, I wouldn't be too quick to assume that this is just user error. We're talking about experienced VoiceOver users after all. It is possible that there's a bug in IOS 7 / VoiceOver. On 09/19/2013 12:44 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: > What may also be happening to cause the jumping is that one is waiting too > long before performing a second swipe or touch of the screen, and since the > icons on the screen are constant, if your finger has moved just a tiny bit, > you will end up tapping on a different part of the screen. Try this... > > Tap on a single icon once, then wait a couple of seconds, then tap again, > and you will notice that the icon responds as if you only tapped it once. > > Now execute a double-tap by first tapping on the desired icon then quickly > tap on a different part of the screen. If you completed the double-tap fast > enough, the app or folder will open. On the other hand, if you did it to > slowly, you will hear another icon gain the highlight. > > Joseph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Chittenden" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping > > > When you touch the screen, if your finger is not already moving, VO focus > moves to the actual location on the display where your finger is touching. > Now, when your finger performs the finger flick, VO moves from its new > position on the display to the next position. This gives the appearance that > VO is jumping around the screen, when in actual fact, you are shifting VO > before you perform the flick. > > But wait, you say, I am not touching the screen before I start my flick. > This is actually something VO does not get confused about. The touchscreen > does not require any pressure whatsoever. When you hold your finger just > above the screen before starting your flick, if your finger is barely > touching the screen, so lightly that you do not feel it, this is enough > contact to activate the display and move VO focus to the actual location > where your finger is touching. Testing this in the lab demonstrates that the > finger can barely touch the screen enough to activate it and both sighted > and blind people do not register the haptic (tactual) sensation. > > An analogy is, when you are typing on a keyboard, pressing on the wrong > letter causes the wrong letter to appear in your document, no matter how > much you were thinking about pressing the correct letter. If your finger is > heavy on the wrong letter, the key repeat activates and you get a bunch of > the wrong letter in a row in your document. > > Start your flick gesture with your finger at least a quarter of an inch > above the display. This way, your finger is fully engaged in the flick > motion before it contacts the display. finally, lift your finger from the > display before you stop moving it. Exaggerate this motion until you > consistently flick without VO jumping randomly around the display. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20/09/2013, at 4:54, "Sandra Heaton" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes it does I have noticed that as well. >> >> >> Sandra >> Braille Greeting Cards >> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:19 PM >> Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping >> >> >> I can also reproduce this. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 12:18 PM, "rafal" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I have a problem with vo it's strange but vo jumps items when i flicking. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reiser" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:09 PM >>> Subject: Voice over jumps around when swiping >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter michaelsreiser >>> >>> Skype [email protected] >>> >>> Facebook [email protected] from my iPhone hello all, >>> I noticed that in iOS 7, when I swipe around on the screen, voiceover >>> seems to skip items. It also seems to be much more sensitive than before. >>> Is there a new method that I need to know about when flicking around for >>> the screen? This is on an iPhone 4S. 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