If this was the first upgrade which received this particular complaint, I would suspect the same thing. However, I keep a sampling of reported touch problems that users are having for my research, and the exact same complaint has been stated for the past few upgrades. Each time, it is stated that touch is inconsistent now, but it was better in the previous version.
I am able to consistently duplicate the reported VO tracking problems by following the steps I outlined in my previous message, and tracking is not a problem when the corrective suggestions I state are consistently used, by myself, students, and participants we have tested. If tracking problems are reported by quite a few more people after the next few weeks, I will look into doing another round of testing. However, as each round utilises significant resources, and thus far, it sounds like the previous VO upgrade reactions, I will hold off for now. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20/09/2013, at 6:00, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > IMHO, I wouldn't be too quick to assume that this is just user error. We're > talking about experienced VoiceOver users after all. It is possible that > there's a bug in IOS 7 / VoiceOver. > > On 09/19/2013 12:44 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote: >> What may also be happening to cause the jumping is that one is waiting too >> long before performing a second swipe or touch of the screen, and since the >> icons on the screen are constant, if your finger has moved just a tiny bit, >> you will end up tapping on a different part of the screen. Try this... >> >> Tap on a single icon once, then wait a couple of seconds, then tap again, >> and you will notice that the icon responds as if you only tapped it once. >> >> Now execute a double-tap by first tapping on the desired icon then quickly >> tap on a different part of the screen. If you completed the double-tap fast >> enough, the app or folder will open. On the other hand, if you did it to >> slowly, you will hear another icon gain the highlight. >> >> Joseph >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Chittenden" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:20 AM >> Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping >> >> >> When you touch the screen, if your finger is not already moving, VO focus >> moves to the actual location on the display where your finger is touching. >> Now, when your finger performs the finger flick, VO moves from its new >> position on the display to the next position. This gives the appearance that >> VO is jumping around the screen, when in actual fact, you are shifting VO >> before you perform the flick. >> >> But wait, you say, I am not touching the screen before I start my flick. >> This is actually something VO does not get confused about. The touchscreen >> does not require any pressure whatsoever. When you hold your finger just >> above the screen before starting your flick, if your finger is barely >> touching the screen, so lightly that you do not feel it, this is enough >> contact to activate the display and move VO focus to the actual location >> where your finger is touching. Testing this in the lab demonstrates that the >> finger can barely touch the screen enough to activate it and both sighted >> and blind people do not register the haptic (tactual) sensation. >> >> An analogy is, when you are typing on a keyboard, pressing on the wrong >> letter causes the wrong letter to appear in your document, no matter how >> much you were thinking about pressing the correct letter. If your finger is >> heavy on the wrong letter, the key repeat activates and you get a bunch of >> the wrong letter in a row in your document. >> >> Start your flick gesture with your finger at least a quarter of an inch >> above the display. This way, your finger is fully engaged in the flick >> motion before it contacts the display. finally, lift your finger from the >> display before you stop moving it. Exaggerate this motion until you >> consistently flick without VO jumping randomly around the display. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 20/09/2013, at 4:54, "Sandra Heaton" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes it does I have noticed that as well. >>> >>> >>> Sandra >>> Braille Greeting Cards >>> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: Voice over jumps around when swiping >>> >>> >>> I can also reproduce this. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 12:18 PM, "rafal" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a problem with vo it's strange but vo jumps items when i flicking. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Reiser" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:09 PM >>>> Subject: Voice over jumps around when swiping >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Twitter michaelsreiser >>>> >>>> Skype [email protected] >>>> >>>> Facebook [email protected] from my iPhone hello all, >>>> I noticed that in iOS 7, when I swipe around on the screen, voiceover >>>> seems to skip items. It also seems to be much more sensitive than before. >>>> Is there a new method that I need to know about when flicking around for >>>> the screen? This is on an iPhone 4S. 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