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Add my 2 cents to that as well. John -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Days Operator Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOPmail Beta] changelog of vopmail ? * This is the vopmailbeta mailing list * Before this degenerates into a flamefest against Vircom, it should be said that they have every right to change or elevate their business model as they see fit. The truth is that perhaps the size and financial resources of the clients Vircom use to cater too no longer fits into the current phase of their business development. For the record, there's nothing wrong with that, nor is there any expectation that companies should be tied down forever by their beginnings or initial product offerings. The only thing I think is reasonable to object to is if the sales department is pushing support contracts by promising development that will never come - and using that money to improve newer higher-end products. That's the only case in which the recent state of VOPMail should adversely affect Vircom's reputation and future in any way...and that's yet to be seen. Another 9 to 12 months will tell. My 2 cents... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:22 AM Subject: [VOPmail Beta] changelog of vopmail ? > * This is the vopmailbeta mailing list * > > > I hate to say I told you so, but I did! > > Vircom shafts clients with older products. They don't even have the > common decency to tell you so you can plan for future changes or > upgrades. > > It has been a long time since they were that 'great software company' > that made us all feel at home and looked after. > > They got to big and preoccupied with other things and just plain > neglected the existing customers that helped them get where they > are in the first place. > > They will end up going down the gurgled wondering why they don't have > a clue how it all happened. > > Not a single cent will ever go the direction of vircom again from this little > black duck. > > Maybe someone would like to start a old-vircom-customers list and we could > keep the chat going after they have disappeared. > > Linux rocks, vircom sucks. > > ..Petar > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luiz Lima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:58 AM > Subject: [VOPmail Beta] changelog of vopmail ? > > > > * This is the vopmailbeta mailing list * > > > > > > David, > > > > VOPMail and VPRRS have been abandoned, although it's not official. Perhaps > > Vircom thinks it may get back to them in some time. > > > > I would love to see VOPMail turned into a modusMail without the moduscan > > service. That would be honest, IMHO. All the benefits from the mail server > > itself would go to both plataforms, but VOPMail would remain without virus > > and sieve, just the way modus is if you turn off moduscan. > > > > VPRRS, OTOH, should have at least one person taking care of it, at least 50% > > of the time. I'm sure all our support contracts cover that cost. We still > > have no real support for a lot of stuff (specially wireless and DSL) and I > > really don't see any changes coming. > > > > Too bad. > > > > Just one thing you must consider. A new policy at Vircom (about a year old) > > says that if you don't renew your upgrade insurance when it expires then you > > won't be able to renew it at a later time. To get a new version you'd have > > to buy the product again. > > > > -- > > Luiz Lima > > Image Link Internet > > http://www.imagelink.com.br > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Payer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:40 PM > > Subject: [VOPmail Beta] changelog of vopmail ? > > > > > > * This is the vopmailbeta mailing list * > > > > There has not been a change in VOPMail for one year. No updates, no changes, > > no massive failures, the company has not folded, canada is still on the map, > > Yves still works for the company for all we know, and it appears that > > VOPMail is the neglected child of the Vircom family of products now that big > > brother modus has arrived and taken the center stage. > > > > David P. > > > > > > > > ** > > To leave this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > and put the word "LEAVE" in the BODY of the email. > > > > > > ** > To leave this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and put the word "LEAVE" in the BODY of the email. > ** To leave this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put the word "LEAVE" in the BODY of the email. ** To leave this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put the word "LEAVE" in the BODY of the email.
