Jones Beene wrote:

Mike,

Hydrinophobes note: this may be a truly "independant" confirmation of BLP reactions. What would be the clincher is a window into the reaction chamber and spectroscopic analysis of the plasma there. Ironic that it may come from
derivatily from Langmuir of 'pathological science' fame.

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Should Moller go self-powered, and I think it will happen soon, it will likely end all chance for Mills getting the Nobel prize

I'm lost.

Assuming hydrinos exist, they open the door to some additional chemistry related to hydrogen. Fixing QM afterwards will be a major chore, whether or not RM's version of the theory is correct, but stranger things have happened.

I don't see how this relates to anything that's OU. H -> h -> H is a zero-sum game, just like everything else in physics, right? You can't just keep re-using the same hydrogen, getting energy out on every cycle, and never putting anything back in. I don't see how any machine based on BLP techniques could be "self powered" in the sense of producing energy without consuming fuel.

So I guess I don't see where Mills's ideas fit into anything that violates either the first or second law.

What did I miss?

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