Jones Beene wrote: > Actually I am hoping for a local player to step in at the last > second with the self-powered unit, but it could also be Moller or > Mills or Storms or Shoulders or Tessien instead. The 2nd Law will > crumble soon. IMHO the big prize for breaking the law (2nd Law) > and throwing physics into the disarray it rightly deserves for > ingrained pig-headedness - will go for the device itself, and not > the underlying theory, which may take a generation to flesh out. > Let me repeat one thing - massive heat OU is NOT going to be > enough - you must demonstrate a self-powered unit to remove all > doubt.
If such a device existed, how could one decide if its performance was a result of violating the first law rather than the second law? Harry

