Jones,

We are mostly in agreement.  And, I realize how difficult and dangerous it is 
to experiment with the fuel mixture as well as performing the high temperature 
experiments.  I changed from mostly hardware design and development to software 
over the years as I came to the conclusion that it is very difficult to deal 
with the equipment issues of the first type even thought there remains many 
interesting problems to solve in both areas.  One can gain great knowledge 
chasing unexpected behavior of RF and other analog type devices and it is very 
rewarding to solve those difficult problems.

Software and simulation also generates many mental rewards.   One that I found 
particularly interesting is my model of the Mizuno calorimeter about which I 
posted last evening.  It is truly amazing that my model can take the input 
coolant temperature, ambient temperature, and pulse power magnitude and timing 
as inputs and generate a virtually flat line in simulated coolant temperature 
once the noise sources are subtracted from the measured coolant input data.    
Here I refer to noise sources as being variation in ambient temperature, 
leaking pump power, and finally the actual signal itself to achieve a good 
balance.

Once the balance is disrupted by excess power, I can add that back to the input 
signal so that balance is again restored.  The addition is an accounting of the 
excess energy that the device generates.  With this system I can detect an 
addition of approximately 1000 joules of excess energy per pulse.  The signal 
associated with an excess energy ratio of 3 to 1 would blow the scale off the 
charts.  It would be nearly 100 times the sensitivity of my simulation.

Back to the subject at hand.  I have a great concern that it is just too easy 
to make instrument errors which make a small apparent signal look real when in 
fact it is not.  I have witnessed this on several occasions and I do not want 
us to fall into that trap too often again.  Our credibility will suffer if we 
cry wolf on too many occasions and it might not help for us to admit the errors 
after the fact since the damage has already taken place.  Give me a real signal 
to measure or simulate and I can prove that it exists.   If someone generates a 
true, honest COP of 2, then anyone should be game for us to convince of its 
reality.  In my opinion, a COP of 1.1 is likely to be measurement error.  It 
may be real, but I would not bet on it.

Then you should ask why is it limited to only 1.1 when Rossi and the Russian 
appear to achieve much larger numbers?  It is premature to make a good 
judgement on the Russian experiment, but his calorimeter looks too simple to 
screw up if the indicated numbers are valid.   And, the three or so data points 
that he published appear to demonstrate what would be expected according to 
some of my earlier simulations.  I think he has a valid system but it is going 
to take more data to confirm that belief.

I suppose that I am getting more conservative with time.  It is so very 
important that LENR come to market as quickly as possible and we need good 
tools to make this happen.  Perhaps standing by is not the best way to put it, 
but I feel that we will be better served to expect a device to perform somewhat 
closer to the state of the art set by Rossi in this case.  At least it should 
operate at a level that can not be denied easily.  In my opinion that is a COP 
of 2 or more.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jan 27, 2015 2:42 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Jack Cole improvement in LiOH design



From: David Roberson 
 
…  As you point out, a real COP of 1.1 above chemical effects is as valid as 
one of 2.5 provided it can be easily proven to exist.   That proof is where the 
problem lies… It will be much better if and when Jack finds a method of raising 
the COP of his system and before that we should stand by.  
 
 
Of course, everyone wants to see higher COP, and rock solid proof - but if 
there is real gain at all, over and above the oxidation of aluminum and other 
reactants, based on the mass and redox chemistry which is available- then there 
is likely to be no obvious upper limit on how far incremental advances can take 
us. There is only so much a lone experimenter can do. 
 
I think there is a better than 50/50 probability that there is real thermal 
gain here, above the known chemistry of the reactants. There is a strong case 
that SPP and f/H are the main culprits for gain, since recent improvements were 
based on optimizing those parameters.
 
IMO, the last thing that anyone who is committed to the field should do is to 
“stand by” at least if and when they find an opportunity. The field is too 
important and success is to close, to merely let someone else take all the 
risks. Lest you take this the wrong way, Dave, I realize that you personally 
are already involved and have provided lots of valuable analysis. Everyone has 
an area of expertise, but as many competent “hand-on” experimenters as possible 
are needed to pursue small variations on what looks to be a replicatable and 
simplified theme. 
 
There is a risk of wasting one’s time, of course. But that is no different from 
trying to replicate Rossi, Parkhomov or anyone who claims higher COP, but who 
may be untrustworthy at such a basic level that their claims are shaky. I am 
impressed with Cole’s candor and the fact he wants to find errors in his 
technique, if there are any. 
 
And with this simpler design, there are so many obvious ways to improve COP 
that it is only a matter of time and money, rather a systemic limitation. For 
instance, Cole uses very little nickel (Vale 255). That is an obvious way to go 
– add more nickel. He needs a larger power supply. He could be 200 degrees too 
low. There is a need to try AC and pulsed input. Another obvious way to go is 
to use AlanG’s compression fittings on a longer tube, so that sealing is not an 
issue - and so that pressurized H2 or D2 from a tank can be used. There are 
dozens of ways to proceed now, with time and money being the major drawbacks.
 
But the one safety hazard that could ruin everything (insofar as incremental 
advance goes) is for some undergrad to blow off his hands, or worse, trying to 
mix up a compound with LAH. The stuff can be deadly on simple exposure to 
water. Hopefully, we now have a way around that, thanks to Jack Cole.
 
Jones
 
 


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