Manatees are dying of shock around the 17+ microwave radars and earth stations in Melbourne, fl
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2014-02-01/news/os-manatee-deaths-indian-river-20140201_1_indian-river-lagoon-katie-tripp-dead-manatees See my maps for EIRP power overhead. On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > ChemE and Dave-- > > Suppose the damage to the reef is to microscopic reef larva or other > growth phase of the reef organism that lives near or on surface. Is there > enough energy impinging the surface at a steep angle, for example a surface > of a small wave or ripple to affect a small egg cell or young organism—the > hydrogen bonds of its DNA for example? > > I do not know much about the life cycle of reef animals to know if the > eggs ever reach the surface. > > However, if Dave is correct about the disposition of a radar beam in salt > water, it seems it would be at the surface where the damage would be most > likely. And I would think it could be in damage to DNA considering the > rather fragile bonding of that molecule. Resonant frequencies associated > with radar beams may not be tolerated well by the reef’s DNA, where as, UV > and other natural RF in the envirnment it has evolved to live-with. > > Bob Cook > > > > > *From:* David Roberson > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:39 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > > Rectification of the signal can cause small DC currents as you suggest. > Any non linear behavior that treats both the positive and negative RF > swings equally can not result in DC generation but instead causes harmonic > generation of the RF carrier. Do you consider salt water as capable of > behaving differently to the positive versus negative instantaneous RF > voltage and current waveforms? Where is a reference to this behavior? > > The high frequency RF signal itself can not penetrate the water to any > significant degree due to reflections from the surface. Also, keep in mind > that radar signals are aimed to keep their energy toward targets that are > above the water surface in general, especially close by. And the beam > widths are so narrow that only a small portion of the radiated RF impacts > the water near the antenna. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. <hoyt-stea...@cox.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hoyt-stea...@cox.net');>> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:50 pm > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > > Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband > currents. > > > *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com? > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com?');>] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2015 2:45 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > > You are kidding right? > > Any signal that shows up is merely being translated in frequency from its > original location down to the baseband. The only signal received is very > close in frequency to the carrier wave. The modulation signal at the low > Hertz rate is visible at the receiver output, but it was not radiated by > the transmitter. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');>> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:22 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > David, > > Of course the low frequency square pulses show up on receivers, that is > how pulsed doppler works! > > > http://www.rfcafe.com/references/articles/images/Signal-Analysis-Modern-Radar-R-S-6.jpg > > When it is on (every pulse) a weather radar puts out ~1,000,000 WATTS, > (32 billion watts EIRP) > > Stewart > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');>> wrote: > Come on now Stewart. If you take the time to analyze the spectrum of a > pulsed radar signal, you will find that all of the energy is contained in a > location surrounding the carrier frequency. Also, how well do you think a > dish radar antenna being feed by a bandwidth limited waveguide is going to > radiate those 200 to 1000 Hz signals? If you can show me where any > significant amount of that low frequency is radiated I will assume that you > are knowledgeable in RF design. > > It is easy to convince people that know nothing about radio and radar > systems to be concerned about unimportant issues. And, as everyone knows, > statistics can prove just about anything that you wish to prove based upon > the restrictions that are placed upon the data that is analyzed. > > The same type of reasoning is used to keep kids from being vaccinated or > cellular antenna locations from being located in the ideal places. We need > real science instead of variable statistics to settle these issues > properly. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');>> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > Dave, the pulse train is a square wave, with the "on" amplitude approx > 900' long or longer depending upon duty cycle, bouncing between > clouds/planes and the suface of the ocean > > Just one weather radar has an EIRP of 32 billion watts of power, which > gets ducted and scattered by planes and the atmosphere, more during storms. > > Mildly shocking biology with every pulse, depending upon impedence > > Electricity can kill you in a nanosecond, each radar pulse is 1000 times > longer that that in duration. > > Admit it, you sparkies screwed up :) > > Stewart > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, David Roberson < dlrober...@aol.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');>> wrote: > The radar pulse rate does not effect the penetration into the water. In > other words, the 200 to 1000 Hz rate is applied to the carrier and does not > independently appear anywhere else. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ChemE Stewart < cheme...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');>> > To: vortex-l < vortex-l@eskimo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 8:12 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > VLF <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency> radio waves > (3–30 kHz <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz>) can penetrate seawater > to a depth of approximately 20 meters. Hence a submarine at shallow depth > can use these frequencies. > > Most of the radars pulse at 200-1000 Hz. > > Most of the coral disease is in shallow water <20 meters > > On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, ChemE Stewart < cheme...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > Except low pulsed frequencies > > On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery < jabow...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jabow...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zeropo...@charter.net');>> wrote: > This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some > others may have an interest… > > Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link > between our modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs… > > ... > Time to break out the tin-foil hats??? > > > No need. Salt water shields against EM penetration. > > > > ------------------------------ > <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> protection is active. > >
