I agree it has been covered. Radar signals are "absorbed" by the ocean when there are more waves on the surface of the ocean to absorb carrier waves. A calm ocean is more reflective.
The reference is on my site. 3-4" waves lapping over a shallow reef are a good spot to absorb and ground 2-6 GHz radiation into the reef The way the "conductive medium" dissipates the signal is through low level electrical currents. Stewart On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');>> wrote: > Yep. Those induced currents are at the RF microwave frequency that you > are speaking of Stewart. That is how reflections take place. It also can > be used to explain the attenuation of the main signal as it gets dissipated > within the conductive medium. > > This subject has been covered sufficiently for the time being. We have > LENR issues to discuss and I suspect that very few vortex members have > significant interest in the coral reef discussion. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 6:42 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... > > Right, and salt water flowing through a strong pulsing EM field > can induce electrical currents. > > On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. < hoyt-stea...@cox.net> > wrote: > >> Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband >> currents. >> >> >> *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2015 2:45 PM >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... >> >> You are kidding right? >> >> Any signal that shows up is merely being translated in frequency from its >> original location down to the baseband. The only signal received is very >> close in frequency to the carrier wave. The modulation signal at the low >> Hertz rate is visible at the receiver output, but it was not radiated by >> the transmitter. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:22 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... >> David, >> >> Of course the low frequency square pulses show up on receivers, that is >> how pulsed doppler works! >> >> >> http://www.rfcafe.com/references/articles/images/Signal-Analysis-Modern-Radar-R-S-6.jpg >> >> When it is on (every pulse) a weather radar puts out ~1,000,000 WATTS, >> (32 billion watts EIRP) >> >> Stewart >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> >> wrote: >> Come on now Stewart. If you take the time to analyze the spectrum of a >> pulsed radar signal, you will find that all of the energy is contained in a >> location surrounding the carrier frequency. Also, how well do you think a >> dish radar antenna being feed by a bandwidth limited waveguide is going to >> radiate those 200 to 1000 Hz signals? If you can show me where any >> significant amount of that low frequency is radiated I will assume that you >> are knowledgeable in RF design. >> >> It is easy to convince people that know nothing about radio and radar >> systems to be concerned about unimportant issues. And, as everyone knows, >> statistics can prove just about anything that you wish to prove based upon >> the restrictions that are placed upon the data that is analyzed. >> >> The same type of reasoning is used to keep kids from being vaccinated or >> cellular antenna locations from being located in the ideal places. We need >> real science instead of variable statistics to settle these issues >> properly. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... >> Dave, the pulse train is a square wave, with the "on" amplitude approx >> 900' long or longer depending upon duty cycle, bouncing between >> clouds/planes and the suface of the ocean >> >> Just one weather radar has an EIRP of 32 billion watts of power, which >> gets ducted and scattered by planes and the atmosphere, more during storms. >> >> Mildly shocking biology with every pulse, depending upon impedence >> >> Electricity can kill you in a nanosecond, each radar pulse is 1000 >> times longer that that in duration. >> >> Admit it, you sparkies screwed up :) >> >> Stewart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, David Roberson < dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: >> The radar pulse rate does not effect the penetration into the water. In >> other words, the 200 to 1000 Hz rate is applied to the carrier and does not >> independently appear anywhere else. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ChemE Stewart < cheme...@gmail.com> >> To: vortex-l < vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 8:12 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying... >> VLF <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency> radio waves >> (3–30 kHz <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz>) can penetrate >> seawater to a depth of approximately 20 meters. Hence a submarine at >> shallow depth can use these frequencies. >> >> Most of the radars pulse at 200-1000 Hz. >> >> Most of the coral disease is in shallow water <20 meters >> >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, ChemE Stewart < cheme...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Except low pulsed frequencies >> >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery < jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> >> wrote: >> This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some >> others may have an interest… >> >> Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link >> between our modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs… >> >> ... >> Time to break out the tin-foil hats??? >> >> >> No need. Salt water shields against EM penetration. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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