Stefan--

Thanks for reporting on your study of GUTUP.

That’s a nice explanation of Mill’s theory. 

Do you see a magnetic field couple between the nuclear spin and the electronic 
spin (angular momentum of the orbitshperes), and, if so,  does it change with 
the size of the nucleus?

If the electron has 3  different intrinsic spin states—+, –, and 0---it may 
explain the so call degeneracy of the 3 orthogonal electronic orbits.  

How does Mills address intrinsic spin, if at all?

Bob Cook

From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 5:14 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cross section reduction at lower energies



On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

  On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe 
<[email protected]> wrote:


    >In the model of infinitesimally thin orbitspheres with a charge 
distribution >described by spherical harmonics, how does Mills account for 
electron >degeneracy levels?  Are they explained by having several orbitspheres 
>coexisting simultaneously at the same radius?  If the radius of each 
>orbitsphere is distinct, how are degeneracy levels explained?


    I do believe that the orthogonallity is behind Mills approach as well, the 
traped photons Is of the nature jl Ylm exp(iwt). then at the radius r, the 
bessel jl is zero and the outside has zero electrical potential due to a 
boundary condition of the form C*Ylm*exp(iwt) on  the sphere.

  I understand you to be saying that in Mills there are degenerate orbitspheres 
to account for the degenerate electron energy levels known in mainstream 
chemistry.  I also understand the above to mean that, in your understanding, 
several orbitspheres sometimes coexist at the same radius but are orthogonal to 
one another (in a purely mathematical sense) to allow this degeneracy.

This is how I understand it

  A followup question: are there similarly degenerate electron levels below the 
ground state, where there are several orbitspheres at the same radius?  If not, 
why not?
I have not looked much at the hydrinos so I don't know - it does look like 
GUTCP is a bit to low on details for this in my current understanding.

I would like to add to this discussion an observation.

In Mills radii calculation for hydrogene the reduced mass is used. There is a 
potential interesting argument behind the reduced mass that has implication on 
ideas of cold fusion.

To reconcile:
Mills constructs the electron field as a network of uniform current-loops that 
yield the correct spin and a charge distribution and mass, these loops are all 
geodesics on the sphere. 

If we assume that there is a similar matching geodesic at the nucleus, and if 
we assume that a small segment at this loop shall match a similar segment in 
the nucleus loop and try to balance this as much as possible we get that the 
nucleus is a spherical object with radii of the distance from the mass centrum 
to the nucleus if we assume a two body setup and the radius of the electron 
shell is the distance from the electron to the mass centrum in a two
body interaction. By matching the electrical force on a segment on the electron 
shell with the momentum of the current we get a the expression Mills have for 
the hydrogene atom and one electron ions. When calculating the ionisation 
energies one need to add the effect of removing the electron and shrinking the 
nucleus size, maybe that will be the same or very similar to the ionization 
calculation that mills is doing. It is exactly the same if we do this
ionization analysis on each pairing, but it's unclear if it is true globally. 
The end result is that you get a 6 digit match between calculated and meassured 
ionisation energy for Hydrogene and similar accuracy for the one electron ions. 
An interesting thing is that this enlargement of the nucleus is seen for one 
electron atoms you don't get it when you have two electrons because the 
matching is a three body and the system balances quite well. Also this 
indicates that the cross section of the nucleus can be larger then expected by 
normal theory. At least this is my speculation from trying to make sense of 
GUTCP and the cold fusion indications we have. It would be nice if the list 
could chime in with some experimental evidences that could shoot this idea 
down, I don't know the subject well enough to have a say about the reality of 
this idea - it's just a consequence of my struggle to understand theory.

Regards
Stefan















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