Thanks Dave.  I would love to see a solid report.  I still have no
alternative explanation for some of the early results I saw in my own
experiments, but the lack of reproducibility makes me suspect that I missed
some unknown error.

I just have trouble believing that Rossi would send a lawsuit to IH rather
than even one of his old supposedly working 10KW units if he had anything
that worked reliably!  I think 100M dollars is worth a week in NC
demonstrating to anyone at IH how to make it work.

Jack



On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:14 PM Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is unfair to characterize Jack in this way.  He devoted a great deal of
> effort attempting to prove LENR was viable and it appeared to me that he
> was seeing some interesting results in early experiments.  Perhaps he has
> changed his beliefs as of this time due to taking a second look at his
> procedures.
>
> I can understand how demoralized he must feel after all of that effort but
> I feel confident that his opinions will change to a more positive stance if
> the ERV report has substance.  Give him some slack.
>
> My work regarding positive thermal feedback modeling tends to support many
> of the statements originating from Rossi.  Until I see evidence that energy
> is not generated by subjecting the magic formula fuel to high temperatures
> I will hold my positive views.  The earlier experiments that has suggested
> that LENR was present also fit into my model parameters.
>
> So lets all hold off on the personal attacks since they are not
> productive.  Besides, it is against the rules of vortex to engage in such
> behavior!
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 04/10/2016 06:25 PM, a.ashfield wrote:
>
> Jack,
> Thank you for proving my  point  (Skeptics will not believe any test)
> You have no idea what tests were run on the 1 MW plant by the EVR but you
> have already dismissed it sight unseen.
>
> "Brad,
>
> I concur.  Nobody talking here is a pseudo-skeptic.  Every one of us who
> is skeptical here has devoted a large amount of time (and money for some of
> us) to reading, analyzing, thinking, and even directly conducting many
> experiments.  I have wanted the E-cat to work as much as anyone, and
> understand how it is hard to give up that hope when you have invested so
> much in seeing it through to a positive outcome.  But we can't let that
> cognitive dissonance cause us to continue down a path of waste when there
> may be other more fruitful avenues.  Eventually, a person must say, "enough
> is enough" and realize a dream is just a dream and open our eyes to look
> around for something real and worth investing effort in.  It is painful to
> do, but better than continuing down that path.
>
> Jack
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 3:36 PM Brad Lowe < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> Wait for another inconclusive report written by a dunce or a paid
> stooge? Rossi has wasted many man-years of our collective time. I am
> done waiting.
>
> And don't call me a pseudo-skeptic. We all would have been happy with
> any report where a gas generator ran the E-cat which heated a body of
> water. With a 1MW output, he could run that in a day to prove his
> claim and win back his millions. Rossi doesn't have anything of
> commercial value. Time to admit Rossi's grandfatherly demeanor and
> confident lies fooled me and many others.
>
> - Brad
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 1:05 PM, a.ashfield < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Brad Lowe wrote.  "Goat-guy made a great comment on next big future
> where he
> > makes a very good guess as to how Rossi is faking the results of the
> tests."
> >
> > Wait and see what the ERV report shows.
> >
> > I doesn't mater what the test it will not be enough to persuade pseudo
> > skeptics.  As Rossi said long ago, the only proof will be sales of
> working
> > reactors."
> >.
>
>
>

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