Axil--

I thought that was the case.  That’s why I pointed out that he has apparently 
decided to use Ti in some fashion in the Quark device.  Maybe Jones is on to 
something.  Ti in a Ni lattice may cause the magnetic B field that occurs in 
the lattice to change drastically from location to location and thereby provide 
the necessary resonances to effect LENR in the local coherent system.  

It could also be involved in the production of differential voltage and the 
direct production of electricity, which has been reported for the E Cat X and 
maybe transferred  to the design of the Quark-X device. 

Bob Cook  

From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 11:56 AM
To: vortex-l 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Titanium/Hematite combined catalyst for low temperature

To the best of my understanding, titanium is not covered in Rossi's patent for 
the hot cat.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

  Jones and Robin--

  Rossi as said today on his blog that he uses Ti in his Quark-x device.

  Bob Cook

  -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 6:17 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:Titanium/Hematite combined catalyst for low temperature

  Hi Robin,

  You misunderstand.

  I am not trying to explain of validate Mills version of titanium as a
  hydrino catalyst. He clearly got it wrong for this element, at least for
  any parameters below plasma conditions. There is no way on earth that his
  theory can explain the results I mentioned from Professor Dash and the
  others, who found that Ti was more active than palladium in his experiments
  which were at ambient. Of course, one could say that titanium was active for
  another reason besides f/H but that goes against common sense. As does the
  suggestion that Dash missed another active catalyst at work or that he was
  doing "cold fusion" which automatically negates a fractional hydrogen
  pathway.

  My effort was aimed at showing a possible way of using the most intuitive
  part of Mills theory (the Rydberg/Hartree values) in a revised version, not
  Mills version - which can show that titanium is indeed the one and only
  catalyst which can work at the lowest possible temperature, due to its low
  ionization multiple of the first electron. This is not anti-Mills so much as
  it is Mills-inspired. It involves multibody reactions, as the tradeoff.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:28 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Titanium/Hematite combined catalyst for low temperature

  In reply to  Jones Beene's message:
  Hi,
  [snip]

    Back to the CQM theory. The catalytic hole at 190 eV is next to
    impossible to achieve without a plasma, even as a transient state in the

  hottest glow tube, so it would seem that Mills’ theory is irrelevant… but,
  hold on … let’s consider a special type of multibody reaction that would
  only work at moderate temperature. Turns out that titanium has a first
  ionization potential at 6.8 eV which is a quarter of the Rydberg (Hartree)
  energy, and is the only transition metal to have such a value, meaning that
  on paper, four titanium atoms operating together would express an
  alternative to the Mills catalytic “hole.” Multibody reactions would be
  unlikely in gas or plasma phase, or at high temperature but in a FCC crystal
  structure with 14 atoms of Ti, we have a stable solid phase structure where
  it should be possible (on a regular basis - thousands of times per second)
  to have 4 electrons temporarily displaced - enough to create the required
  catalytic window- not as Mills suggests, but in an effective alternative so
  long as the hydrogen can be retained in the matrix (requiring low
  temperature). This multibody route can explain the comment of Dash that
  titanium is more active than palladium for gain.

  1) When metal atoms combine in a lattice the energy levels of the valence
  electrons change, so they no longer add to 190 eV. You may have more luck
  using the work function of the metal (which will be influenced by
  "contaminants").

  2) The catalytic hole is an absorption hole, IOW Ti will accept 190 eV from
  H as the H shrinks, with Ti losing the first 5 of it's electrons as a
  result. It's as though the H "boils off" the Ti electrons.

  3) Getting hold of atomic Ti may mean at least using Ti vapor. The boiling
  point of Ti is 3287°C. Although alternatively you could use electrolysis
  where Ti is formed from a salt at the cathode, one atom at a time. The
  problem here however is that cathodes need to be conducting, i.e. usually
  metallic so the newly minted Ti atoms are going to join the lattice,
  implying a very short or even non-existent window for a shrinkage reaction
  to take place. (Carbon cathode
  perhaps?)

  4) The energy released by each H atom shrinking 7 levels in one go would be
  856.674 eV, of which 190 eV is used to ionize the Ti (and later released as
  the Ti reclaims it's missing electrons).

  5) I suspect that the importance of Ti for LENR is more likely to be that it
  is a spillover catalyst.

  Regards,

  Robin van Spaandonk

  http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


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