As I stated, I have many concerns about his system. On the other hand, I have a much more positive belief that some form of nickel, hydrogen, lithium gas system might generate additional heat. As long as that possibility exists within my mind I fail to see how Rossi's experiment would be completely invalid.
Are you convinced that LENR is not a real phenomena? If so, I will understand why you are taking the position that Rossi absolutely can not be believed. That is OK, everyone is entitled to their beliefs. If it becomes clear to me that my attempts to uncover a scientific explanation of how someone might be scamming an experiment is wasting time for 'everyone' on this list, I will refrain from that effort. You may not remember that I have contributed to the resolution of many important issues in the past. Also, I have constructed thermal system models that yield quite interesting results that you can find in the list archives if interested. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2016 11:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document On 08/08/2016 11:39 PM, David Roberson wrote: I would hope that you could be convinced that Rossi is telling the truth if he were to present a solid scientific proof to that fact. Is that not giving him the benefit of the doubt? Can anyone be 100% confident that he is completely lying? As long as there is any question about the facts, No. Wrong criterion. There will always be some questions about the facts. The courts do not require guilt to be proved "beyond a shadow of a doubt" or "beyond any question" or "beyond any possibility of error" because it is almost never possible to prove anything that definitely. On the other hand, Rossi has been proved to be a liar and a scammer beyond a reasonable doubt which is the criterion jurors are generally asked to apply. The number of unlikely assumptions which must hold in order for him to be an honest researcher is vastly larger than the number of assumptions which must hold if he is what he appears to be, which is a greedy sleazebucket who's stealing money and wasting everybody's time. Concluding in the face of the evidence that you must give him another chance is flat-out irrational -- i.e., it's an emotional decision, not a reasoned one, because there is no reasonable ground for concluding that. If you want to waste time giving him endless chances to try yet again and maybe this time produce an honest result that shows his equipment really does work, feel free, but you are seriously wasting everybody else's time by doing it here. At this time it appears that there's a larger chance that you'll hit Megabucks than that you'll wake up and find out Rossi was vindicated. (And that goes double if you actually buy a lottery ticket.)