Rossi  - Papp  What's the difference. There is not support data.

From: Axil Axil <>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:53 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation

I have been trying to understate how the Papp engine works for years. It is a 
mystery. This is no information available on how it works.

A clue to the production of a plasma based explosion is now coming from 
Holmlid's experiments. Holmlid has just discovered that a spark can be used to 
activate that plasma explosion just as well as a laser pulse.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Che 
<<>> wrote:

Where's the best online source to go to for information on this?

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil 
<<>> wrote:
I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation based device.

In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced water 
crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the volume of the 
cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure environment inside the 
cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed thereby producing ultra dense 
water crystals.

For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to high 
compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the cylinder wall 
induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant against the cylinder 
wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will eventually let 
cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion gases to leak into the 

To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the subsequent 
loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which produce ultra 
dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the cylinder cycle but 
the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not damage the cylinder 

When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded as happens 
in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen cycltals produce atomic 
particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of light. Currently, 
Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy inherent to his expanding 

To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture that 
nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design using 
ultra dense hydrogen as fuel.

Reply via email to