I read your paper twice and have the following comments:
1. As Jones points out, hiding .511Mev EM radiation from electron/positron
reactions is not likely IMHO. Therefore I doubt it occurs during CES.
2. The model which includes high kinetic energy products is also hard to
imagine in the water system without generation of EM radiation that should be
easy to observe. Therefore, I doubt energetic particles are present in CES.
3. I consider that the cavitation produces a coherent system that is coupled
by electric and/or magnetic fields and within a very short time frame changes
its potential energy to phonic (vibrational) kinetic spin energy of the entire
coherent system of the remaining particles including the electrons.
4. As the coherent system collapses, the constituents give up heat
(vibrational L energy--spin energy) to the surround water in a normal slow
transfer of heat and increase of enthalpy.
5. Finally, all the model’s assumptions about virtual neutrinos and other
virtual particles are unnecessary and only uggest a non-real mechanism
associated with understanding high energy physics experiments, not like
condensed matter LENR of coherent QM systems.
6. A good model which explains how spin quanta are redistributed within a
coherent system in whole number multiples of Planck’s constant divided by 2
pie (h/2pie) is warranted with conservation of angular momentum and total
From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form of
The hellish conditions found in the Earth’s lower mantle: more than 1,800 miles
below the surface, the lower mantle experiences temperatures nearing 4,000
degrees Fahrenheit and pressures that are 1.3 million times higher than the air
at earth's surface is where diamonds are created after a milion years of
enduring these intense physical conditions.
Graphite-to-diamond transformation induced by ultrasound cavitation
Diamond microcrystals have been synthesized using ultrasonic cavitation of a
suspension of hexagonal graphite in various organic liquid
media, at an average bulk temperature of the liquid up to 120°C and at
atmospheric pressure. The yield of diamond is up to 10% by mass. The
diamonds were characterized by scanning electron microscopy, X-ray diffraction
and laser Raman spectroscopy. Analysis of the crystallite size
distribution showed that the diamonds were nearly mono-dispersed, having a size
6 or 9μm ± 0.5μm, with cubic, crystalline morphology.
one “successful” cavitation bubble collapse = one diamond crystal)
If cavitation can produce diamonds from graphite in a microsecond, cavitation
can also produce the same intense conditions that can produce metallic hydride
components such as metallic water and hydrogen deep inside the earth and other
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Nigel Dyer
For some months I have been working with Cavitation Energy Systems
(http://cavitationenergysystems.com/) who have been developing an efficient
steam generator based on cavitation. What is not obvious until you start going
through the details of what they say on the website is that there appears to be
five times more energy in the steam they produce than the electrical energy
they use to produce it.
I have met up with them in Florida and gone through the details of the system
and it does appear to be as they claim. The question is how does it manage to
do this? By combining knowledge of their system with other 'excess energy'
systems that I am aware of and had dealings with I think the mechanism is as
· As they intended, they use a diesel injector to create a pulse of
water that is full of cavitation bubbles.
· When the pulse hits a nearby surface a shock wave travels back
through the water initiating an almost synchronous collapse of all the bubbles.
· The potential differences within the collapsing bubbles accelerate
some free protons such that they have an energy of the order of 10kV, enough to
overcome the coulomb barrier and initiate fusion.
· The fusion energy is carried away by a virtual neutrino, and there is
a cascade of virtual neutrinos which distribute the energy as kinetic energy
among nearby protons and electrons. Some of the protons have sufficient energy
to initiate a secondary fusion event starting a short duration chain reaction.
With others the kinetic energy they gain is transferred to the water molecule
and consequently the water is heated up until it boils.
The way that the bubbles collapse directs the energy away from the surface,
avoiding the normal problems of cavitation systems where the cavitation causes
damage to surfaces. The way that the shock wave causes all the bubbles to
collapse and initiate fusion at close to the same time means that the energy
from the proton-proton fusion is able to heat all of the water, converting it
to steam, at which point the chain reaction stops.
Not only do they appear to have significant energy gain but it is available in
a highly usable form, as high temperature steam. I have put together some more