Bob, OK but to restate the obvious, there is no possible resolution on these issues based on the limited information we have now.
The neglected points that makes this earlier work by the Toronto team important today are 1) Good evidence, if not proof, that deuterium will fuse using only chemical input energy 2) Moderate evidence of high level coverup in the LENR field in general 3) The Glass method MUST be designated as a form of LENR due to the low input energy in the range of a few eV. 4) There are almost certainly several different forms of LENR and this could be both the most neglected and the most important (arguable) 5) The one critical detail of operation – also echoed in the Farnsworth Fusor, is the huge design boost of spherical convergence 6) That design boost could possibly be translated into the metal matrix paradigm - offering better results (especially using laser ICE with loaded metal targets) 7) If Glass et al had been accepted in the 1980s – the difference in the method of operation in other versions of LENR including the P&F version – would have been easier to accept by physicist. We can only hope that this old work opens some doors to the future, while not adding undue proliferation risk. From: Bob Higgins But Jones, That's not what I said (I don't think). What I was trying to get at was: Hot fusion = Almost all of the fusion energy is delivered in the form of neutron kinetic energy + energetic gamma energy Cold fusion = Almost none (lets say < 1E-6) of the fusion energy recorded is delivered in the form of neutron kinetic energy + energetic gammas Otherwise, if cold fusion produced the energetic neutrons and gammas of hot fusion, the future for it may not be as interesting. Whatever the "cold fusion" reaction is, it delivers fusion commensurate heat without the nasty energetic neutrons and gammas that makes it particularly interesting. These energetic neutrons and gammas are a real quagmire for the hot fusion programs. The 50% energetic neutrons will activate the machinery turning it all into radioactive waste. The machinery will have to be periodically replaced just due to neutron damage to the materials. Hot fusion reactors may not have runaway reaction danger, but it will still be proliferating radioactive waste (admittedly shorter half life). Also what is being turned into waste and having to be replaced will be expensive machinery. The energetic neutrons will make hot fusion energy expensive. JonesBeene wrote: Bob, Well, given that there are claims of small amounts of neutrons and gammas in cold fusion by a number of reputable experiments, one cannot arbitrarily define the reaction as being neutron-free or gamma free. From: Bob Higgins Jones - No, not humor. Lack of neutrons and gamma has been -a- defining difference between hot fusion and cold fusion. In hot fusion the energy is taken away by neutrons and gamma almost exclusively. In cold fusion, there are no neutrons and gamma commensurate with heat production (or dead graduate students). Instead, there are low rate side productions of neutrons and gammas in cold fusion systems, but that may be due to a small branching ratio or a small amount of 2-body hot fusion occurring. The input energy going into many cold fusion experiments is certainly commensurate with that going into a Farnsworth fusor, but the Farnsworth reaction is widely regarded as being 2-ion hot fusion. I have that report, but have only scanned it so far. It could be that the neutron and gamma rates reported were small compared to the energy released by the reaction - do you know? JonesBeene wrote: Bob, Did you mean that as humor? It would be almost “pathological” to define cold fusion in such a way as to exclude the known outputs of nuclear fusion in general. In fact, in terms of the applied heat, palladium fusion at 2 volts has the equivalent input temperature of 20,000°K per atom of reactant, whereas the combustion temperature of burning deuterium in O2 would be less.