All past experiments doing deuterium LENR I know always directly
produced 4-He.
If somebody believes that no fusion would happen at all, then he should
visit a priest.
The key feature of LENR is that fusion happens without any hard
radiation that is significantly above background. We, in our lab, can
produce LENR reactions with significantly above background gamma
radiation. But that is intention to study the LENR mechanism.
In the H-H case the SO(4) bond structure of dense hydrogen does not
allow direct fusion. Here we see only 500eV going out what is a kind of
no go for H-H LENR. H(-H) LENR only works with Lithium and other
elements that allow the add-on of H* that of reacts like a neutron.
But there were also experiments like 56Fe + H* --> pseudo 57-Co, that
behaves halve like 57-Co and finally halve like 57-Fe.
finally a very strange state.. similar to halo nuclei.
In the Mizuno case we certainly will see 4-He with a 4-He a part > that
10^6 of the 3-He part.
Jürg
Am 14.07.19 um 20:45 schrieb JonesBeene:
*From: *Jed Rothwell <mailto:[email protected]>
* I assume there is one fundamental cause of cold fusion in all
systems. It is the same thing in all cases. This is similar to
saying that fission is the same in reactors and bombs, although it
looks and acts quite different.
This “one fundamental cause” could be the problem – you are tied to an
assumption which is not proved. The fission analogy is not useful.
Of course such a basic logical error would hinder anyone’s ability to
look beyond the limitations of the P&F effect – aka “cold fusion”. In
fact in the earlier Mizuno work with nickel at higher pressure - cited
in an older thread here - where Mizuno uses both protium and
deuterium in different comparative runs at higher pressure - he gets
actually better results (more excess heat) from protium than with
deuterium. You cannot deny this result.
To me this is solid evidence direct from Mizuno that there is more
than “one fundamental cause” to excess heat – one being fusion and the
other being very different; and thus all future devices must recognize
that nuclear fusion is not required for excess heat. This is actually
highly desirable as "fusion” alone opens the regulatory doors for all
kinds of unnecessary government intrusion.
Bottom line is that at least two fundamental causes of excess heat
exist. Possibly more. One is nuclear fusion seen in electrolysis
where typically lithium and high loading play a role. Another cause
is a non-fusion reaction with nickel as the reactant, low loading is
desirable, and no lithium is needed.
A third possible reaction also acknowledged by Mizuno (and by Ed
Storms) is sequential cluster formation with its signature radiation
of 630 eV. That third one alone could be used for excess heat without
the other two.
The nickel reaction works with either hydrogen or deuterium and to
confuse things it is probably based on a “nuclear coupling” of some
kind - (mass converted into energy) but it is not “nuclear fusion.”
It is pretty clear that both or all three fundamental causes for gain
are valid over a thirty year history, and very different from each
other - and no one knows this more clearly than Mizuno as it stands
out prominently from his earlier papers.
Jones
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