On Aug 7, 2007, at 6:36 PM, Jones Beene wrote:

Horace Heffner wrote:

The "in" has to mean inside, inside bouncing around. Photons are not like particles. They travel at c. If the photon were not contained it would just fly off.

Not necessarily. The speed of light, unimpeded in a vacuum is a well-known physical constant but when light is subject to physical conditions other than a vacuum, the effective velocity of the electromagnetic waves that make up the light can change drastically. The interaction with an electron is one such condition.

The most well-known instance of this is when light is transmitted through a refractive material that has an electric permittivity and a magnetic permeability different from a vacuum.

Hau from Harvard slowed a beam of light to 17 meters per second and UC Berkeley has slowed photons even slower than that.


I don't think Mills invoked the idea that a single atom is a BEC, but let's go with that anyway.



Few would doubt that the "orbital" of the hydrino, even one defined differently from the Mills' OS - represents a refractive or reflective material which has an electric permittivity and a magnetic permeability far different from a vacuum.


Once again, if you say the photon is bouncing around inside you have the problem of a photon stuck in a box way smaller than allowed by Heisenberg. It is not going to stay there. Besides, how did that big wavelength photon get in that small box to begin with anyway? Sending a small photon into a big BEC is not the same as sending a large photon at a much smaller BEC.


Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/



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