Edmund Storms wrote:
You are certainly right Stephen, might does make right and land is
always taken by force and retained the victor.
Excuse me, I didn't say that, or didn't intend to. It's Thomas who
elevated it to a principle of international law in this thread, just
before I went ballistic and belched out an "oversized load" response.
Just to reiterate, I said:
>>> international law doesn't
>>> technically recognize the principle of "might makes right".
As always you can get away with whatever you can get away with; that's a
tautology. But that doesn't make it "right" or "legal".
We did it to the British,
the Indians, and to the Mexicans while feeling very proud of ourselves.
However, the situation with Israel is different. Here a higher moral
principal is being claimed, i.e. God's will. We are to believe that the
Jews are more favored than the Philistines by God and that the moral
teachings of Christ allow such a conquest. This is not a normal
conflict! In addition, even if we ignore the moral issue, the practical
issue of Israel being able to survive while being surrounded by angry
people who have access to rockets needs to be considered. Granted,
Israel has won the pitched battles. But, will they win the war without
compromise?
Ed
thomas malloy wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
R C Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs.
This time the "wedge" is oil. The USA uses oil like toilet paper and
everybuddy knows wez intitled to it.. or we think we do. We have
enough oil provided we turn off
This didn't endear the nascent nation of Israel to the locals, and
doesn't seem to put the possession of the land of Israel on the
firmest of legal footings. Oh, granted, God said it was theirs, so
under God's law it's clear cut, but under international law it's
rather hazier, I think; unlike God's law, international law doesn't
technically recognize the principle of "might makes right".
Thomas's response starts here:
I think that the principal of the gain of territory by military
conquest is an established principal of international law. In
particular, this applies to aggressors, who subsequently loose the war
that they start. The problem is that people of a certain political
persuasion don't want the rules to apply to the followers of Judeo
Christian Civilization. IMHO, the Philistines repeated losses to the
Israelis should tell you something, particularly since they out number
them 10 to one.
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