Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
You are certainly right Stephen, might does make right and land is
always taken by force and retained the victor.
Excuse me, I didn't say that, or didn't intend to. It's Thomas who
elevated it to a principle of international law in this thread, just
before I went ballistic and belched out an "oversized load" response.
Just to reiterate, I said:
>>> international law doesn't
>>> technically recognize the principle of "might makes right".
As always you can get away with whatever you can get away with; that's a
tautology. But that doesn't make it "right" or "legal".
Sorry to misinterpret you. Nevertheless, I agree with you. However,
international law is a recent concept as our examples point out. So, on
that basis, Israel has violated international law as well as the moral
behavior Christ taught. So, what remains? I guess if you can prove that
you have God on your side, this trump's everything.
Ed
We did it to the British, the Indians, and to the Mexicans while
feeling very proud of ourselves. However, the situation with Israel
is different. Here a higher moral principal is being claimed, i.e.
God's will. We are to believe that the Jews are more favored than the
Philistines by God and that the moral teachings of Christ allow such a
conquest. This is not a normal conflict! In addition, even if we
ignore the moral issue, the practical issue of Israel being able to
survive while being surrounded by angry people who have access to
rockets needs to be considered. Granted, Israel has won the pitched
battles. But, will they win the war without compromise?
Ed
thomas malloy wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
R C Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
Gosh, golly, gee folks, here we go again with the Jews and arabs.
This time the "wedge" is oil. The USA uses oil like toilet paper
and everybuddy knows wez intitled to it.. or we think we do. We
have enough oil provided we turn off
This didn't endear the nascent nation of Israel to the locals, and
doesn't seem to put the possession of the land of Israel on the
firmest of legal footings. Oh, granted, God said it was theirs, so
under God's law it's clear cut, but under international law it's
rather hazier, I think; unlike God's law, international law doesn't
technically recognize the principle of "might makes right".
Thomas's response starts here:
I think that the principal of the gain of territory by military
conquest is an established principal of international law. In
particular, this applies to aggressors, who subsequently loose the
war that they start. The problem is that people of a certain
political persuasion don't want the rules to apply to the followers
of Judeo Christian Civilization. IMHO, the Philistines repeated
losses to the Israelis should tell you something, particularly since
they out number them 10 to one.
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