Howdy Jeff,
No problem with you "bellying up to the bar" on this topic , provided you got big enough elbows.

Your point makes a case of "effect" until you factor in China and the Pacific Rim where China is the master. Our religions and politics represent near zero in the great game.. it is our consumer market that keeps us alive, Relying on interpretations of the bible has sure caused lotsa people grief.

The book of Revelation is revealing in what it don't say which tells you it ain't gonna say until it is time to say and that ain't yet.. maybe tomorrow.
In short.. the Texas version is " hide and watch".

Your recognition of Israel's restoration in 1948 as the "physical" Israel may be valid. History and Satan has a strange way of playing tricks on the unsuspecting as ole Willlie Shakepeare observed watching the antics of the king.

As for  " spiritual" Israel.. that's a one on one thing.
Richard

Jeff Fink wrote,
1. This is a valid discussion, since the religious/political events of the next 20 years will affect us all more seriously than the success or failure
of cold fusion

but in 1948 the nation came back to life!

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