In concluding this thread, I want to mention that this is a classic anomaly. I've attempted to make the case that the world is, the way that it is, because it has a super natural component, which guides it. Even more anomalous are the writings of the Prophets which spell this scenario out in exact detail. In this scenario,Israel is the center of the world. As prophecized, it has become the focus of the entire World's attention.

Edmund Storms wrote:

thomas malloy wrote:

Edmund Storms wrote:

thomas malloy wrote:

The return of the Jews, the conquest of the land, it's subsequent prosperity, the hatred of the Arabs, their refusal to get over the indignity of the loss of that part of their conquered land, the Liberals support of Islam. IMHO, It's all supernatural. BTW, comprise will get no where with the Islamists, it's counterproductive.

If this is the case Thomas, Israel better have God on its side because otherwise the country is doomed. This conclusion is obvious to any rational person, not just liberals. Here is a small country that is not self sufficient without outside aid and is

Your comments just tickle me Ed, this is exactly the scenario that the prophecies said would occur.

Good, this is the spirit we need to continue a discussion. Of course, a person explaining such a conflict even in the past would predict that some people would try to find a reasonable solution. \

IMHO, there is no reasonable solution to a civilizational conflict. There is a night and day difference between a British Common Law based legal system, which is based on the Holy Torah, and a Sharia based system, which is based on the Qu' ran and the Hadith. If you can't see the difference between them, you need new glasses.

But, this is not your point. I assume you believe this conflict was foretold in the Bible and that it will end badly, after which Christ will return and set things right again. Is this your belief?

Badly is a subjective word. IMHO, the only way to make the world truly better involves the expiation of sin. There have been various Utopian communities, they were either based on the Bible, or they soon went into sexual immorality and or totalitarianism.

I believe this is a case of a self fulfilling prophecy that various people worked to bring about in modern times. . If you are right, we should not have to wait long.

If I'm right this began with a rebellion in heaven and continued with the lie that the serpent told Eve in the Garden. As far as it being a self fulling prophecy, I'm not G-d, nor is all of humanity. Israel, the weather, and the earthquakes are the prophecized labor pains



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