[I am going to try posting with Gmail. I am tired of Mindspring's bad habits.]
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >>a few people involved. If you want NIST to lie about an engineering >>analysis, you would have to enlist thousands of experts world-wide to go along. >> >[snip] >It isn't necessary for the scientists to lie. Just tell them to find "the >scientific explanation" for the collapse of the building (as if it weren't >already known), and they will happily trot off and create lots of lovely models >to explain it. IOW they inadvertently work within the framework that they are >given. Robin, I hate to be harsh, but this is nonsense. This is like suggesting you could poison someone and then convince a police department medical examiner that he died from the hiccups. The people at NIST are experts in every aspect of disasters and building collapse. That includes deliberate destruction, which ranges from conventional demolition and demolition with explosives, to arson, damage in war and terrorist attacks. They would INSTANTLY recognize the signature of deliberate, planned destruction. For one thing, they destroy buildings and structures themselves, frequently. They destroy them with every known method. They are expert witnesses for law enforcement and the military. They have been doing that for over a century. Even my dad, who did not work in that department, knew a great deal about fire damage and structural damage. And not only NIST knows this. Any fire department has experts in these things, and the NYFD has the best in the world. The Japanese version of NIST sent teams of experts to pore over the evidence. They went over the work and the report with a fine toothed comb. Experts from dozens of other countries looked closely. As I said, this was the most important case in history. If NIST had missed anything, you can be sure these others would have seen it. Again let me emphasize that it is ridiculous to think that you can learn something from an Italian video advertisement that NIST, the NYFD and thousands of other experts overlooked. This is exactly like Arata's claim that Fleischmann overlooked the "cigarette lighter effect" which caused heat after death, and Arata confirmed this by observing Fleischmann "shifty expression" and the fact that he "fled from" Arata. Arata concluded the Flieschmann obviously realized he made a mistake when Arata pointed it out, and he has been covering up ever since, because he is an incompetent fool and a born liar. This is exactly like the notion that experts in NIST did not bother to listen to audio recordings of the collapse -- because they forgot, y'think? Or because they are incapable of analyzing such recordings, and any amateur could do a better job? Fleischmann knows far more about degassing than Arata does, and the people at NIST know way more about how a building collapse sounds than you do. When I say "way more" I mean they have written textbooks on the subject, and they probably have extensive sound libraries from thousands of different tests. By the way, I acquainted Arata with the facts from Fleischmann's papers, especially his response to Morrison. It made no impression on Arata. He is certain that he is right, and he pays no attention to physics, facts or numbers that prove he is wrong. Steve Jones and the other self-appointed experts (S.E.P.) in the 9/11 collapse are the same way. You can assemble a panel of the world's most qualified people, and they can write thousands of pages of peer-reviewed engineering physics to prove their point, but it is water off a duck's back. They will not understand it or pay any attention any more than the anti-cold fusion experts pay attention to 10,000 eV atom of heat or tritium at 10E14 above background. Facts mean nothing to S.E.P. Steve Jones is perhaps the only S.E.P. in both cold fusion denial and 9/11 denial, but as I said, the mindset is the same. Ignore experts, ignore facts, invent outlandish physics, preposterous history and impossible motivations. Stir in paranoia, distrust and ignorance and bake well for a few years. Bon appetit! - Jed
