As Steve points out, this has been an interesting discussion between Jed and
Jones. My notions:
The response of the oil comapnies will in part be how they defined
themselves--- as purveyors of oil, or purveyors of energy. Chevron and BP
are already making gestures in that direction. Oil companies distlribute
energy from finite sources on a large, international scale. That capability
could serve wind and solar as the favorable sources and consumers are
geographically separated.
This is not true of LENR and BLP, and there are significant differences
between them, and definitely far from the oil companies. With respect to
LENR, it is still in its infancy. It exists, but reactors of substantial
power -- kilowatts -- are uncontrolled accidents. We have no real
information about the consumeables in industrial systems, nor about the
facilities to produce and possikbly refurbish targets/cathodes. Until we
reach that point dreams of widespread impact are just speculation.
BLP has now reached the stage of repetitive multi-kilowatt, megajoule
reactions. Mills is focused on devising a method of continuous burn as a
basis for building a utility-scale reactor that can use hydrogen from water
as a fuel. The process is inherently scalable; one version may be a module
for service stations to generate local hydrogen for automobliles coverted to
use compressed hydrogen for fuel. Other versions could serve villages and
town throughout the develping world without the need for power grids. Power
where you need it. Sine electrolyzers are part of the system, any water will
do, even urine. There will be some kind of maintnance infrastruture, even if
only to collect hydrino output, for such is a valuable chemical resource.
One estimate is that a gigajoule reactor would require 1 liter of water per
second.
Even with favorable assumptions, the rate of implementation of BLP
technology may take one to two decades before the carbon-based fuels are
replaced. That is comparable with some estimates of the decline of oil
resources. I do not yet see how BLP could be applied to aircraft, but I am
willing to be pleasantly surprised.
Mike Carrell
----- Original Message -----
From: Jones Beene
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?
As I am off for the yearly tryptophan fix, let me just state these seven
obvious conclusions, which are closer to fact than opinion.
1) Yes the oil companies have been involved in our government at the highest
levels. Doesn't matter.
2) Yes, the oil companies are awash in profits which would not be there but
for the oil cartel. Does matter, especially since they know clearly that
they must reinvest or lose it.
3) Yes "money talks" and Big Oil will protect all of their investments, and
continue to invest in whatever give a decent return or whatever the consumer
wants for energy. They will be the biggest investors in whatever new
technology comes along to replace oil.
4) Yes, oil itself will be replaced, eventually and gradually over time ...
but NOT the "oil companies" (not most of them anyway). They can provide
related services and financing most easily and efficiently.
5) Yes, the former oil companies, as they transition into energy companies,
can easily provide the infrastructure to refill BLP reactors, refuel LENR
reactors, supply hydrogen from wind and solar, collect road taxes, recharge
EEStor batteries, supply and repair magnetic or ZPE devices, or whatever
breakthrough comes along. Doesn't matter what, exactly, comes along -- they
will just sign the checks in the end.
6) Yes, these companies are like governmental entities now and they will
continue to operate within that same needed framework for the transportation
infrastructure - this is the same function that "ministries" and
bureaucracies provide in socialist countries. It is needed and will always
be there.
7) No, it is not in their best interest to hinder any advance in any new
energy technology in any way - since that would only mean that some other
government or corporate entity would then be empowered to replace them, and
thereby relieve them of the future profits which they can easily collect
from any replacement technology so long as they remain active players.
That is the capitalist way: agile, quick and adaptable - and only the weak
links - the bloated "Generals" like Data General or General Motors, the ones
who are too fat and too content to change quickly with the times, get left
out in the cold.
Look for Saudi Arabia with trillions in the bank, to be an early big (huge)
investor in LENR or magnetics, should a robust device or breakthrough come
along soon.
Its all about the applied and useful new technology ... or lack thereof; and
it is a little too convenient to blame big oil for the present "lack
thereof".
Jones
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