Ed,

Well I think that we now have honed-down the differing points-of-view to Planck 
time <g>

You seem to be saying that even if a transmuton exists, it becomes a real 
unbound neutron (high mass) prior to becoming a bound (stable average mass) 
neutron.

In contrast, I am suggesting that it never becomes an unbound neutron; and 
instead appears ab initio as a bound (stable mass) particle without ever going 
through the stage of "real neutron" so there is no (or only slight) additional 
energy to dissipate. 

Jones



> >
> >> When C12 is converted to C13 by addition of a neutron, the following
> >> mass change occurs:
> >
> >> 12.0000000 + 1.0086649 = 13.0033548, which represent a loss of mass
> >> equal to 0.0053101 AMU.  This is equal to 4.95 MeV. The mechanism  
> >> does
> >> not matter.  If C12 is the starting material and C13 is the product,
> >> this much energy MUST be removed.
> >
> > No one denies this Ed. You seem to be missing the point.
> >
> > The point is that C12 has a cross section for neutrons which is so  
> > very low that this reaction above will NEVER happen in practice, so  
> > the energy content before and after, of a real neutron, is  
> > absolutely meaningless to this situation.
> >
> > We are not dealing with a real neutron reaction. Period
> 
> I agree, Jones. However, if C12 is converted to C13, a real neutron  
> must be added. This real neutron might have been a virtual neutron at  
> one time, but once it enters the C12 nucleus, it has to become a real  
> neutron to make C13 real C13. Once this happens, by whatever magic you  
> can imagine, the mass balance must take place.
> 
> Ed
> >
> >
> > OK let's move on from there. You may complain that my invention of a  
> > "transmuton" which derives from a proton initially but has far less  
> > mass to loose, when it is adsorbed by 12C as a neutral energy poor  
> > particle - has no basis of fact in prior science, and that is  
> > clearly true.
> >
> > I will agree that for now - the transmuton or virtual neutron or  
> > whatever one wishes to label it - is a "construct" or an invention  
> > which serves a specific purpose. It could easily be fiction.
> >
> > But it is a construct in exactly the same sense that the neutrino  
> > was for many decades a construct, a fiction and an invention - which  
> > served a specific purpose ... that is, until the neutrino was  
> > discovered to be both real and very close to having the physical  
> > properties that its inventors thought it would have when it was  
> > "constructed".
> >
> > Jones
> >

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