Jones Beene wrote: > Ed, > > Well I think that we now have honed-down the differing points-of-view > to Planck time <g> > > You seem to be saying that even if a transmuton exists, it becomes a > real unbound neutron (high mass) prior to becoming a bound (stable > average mass) neutron. > > In contrast, I am suggesting that it never becomes an unbound > neutron; and instead appears ab initio as a bound (stable mass) > particle without ever going through the stage of "real neutron" so > there is no (or only slight) additional energy to dissipate.
But where did it come from to start with? What particle(s) went into the creation of this (newly minted) neutron? The energy difference between the starting species and the final nucleus is presumably what is of interest here. If it started out as a neutron on the outside then there was a big mass difference. If it didn't start out as a neutron, then what *did* it start out as? Without some kind of assumption as to the starting state, it would seem that all discussion of how much energy should have been released is rather pointless. <unknown> - <total final mass> = <unknown>. > > Jones > > > >>>> When C12 is converted to C13 by addition of a neutron, the >>>> following mass change occurs: 12.0000000 + 1.0086649 = >>>> 13.0033548, which represent a loss of mass equal to 0.0053101 >>>> AMU. This is equal to 4.95 MeV. The mechanism does not matter. >>>> If C12 is the starting material and C13 is the product, this >>>> much energy MUST be removed. >>> No one denies this Ed. You seem to be missing the point. >>> >>> The point is that C12 has a cross section for neutrons which is >>> so very low that this reaction above will NEVER happen in >>> practice, so the energy content before and after, of a real >>> neutron, is absolutely meaningless to this situation. >>> >>> We are not dealing with a real neutron reaction. Period >> I agree, Jones. However, if C12 is converted to C13, a real neutron >> must be added. This real neutron might have been a virtual neutron >> at one time, but once it enters the C12 nucleus, it has to become a >> real neutron to make C13 real C13. Once this happens, by whatever >> magic you can imagine, the mass balance must take place. >> >> Ed >>> >>> OK let's move on from there. You may complain that my invention >>> of a "transmuton" which derives from a proton initially but has >>> far less mass to loose, when it is adsorbed by 12C as a neutral >>> energy poor particle - has no basis of fact in prior science, and >>> that is clearly true. >>> >>> I will agree that for now - the transmuton or virtual neutron or >>> whatever one wishes to label it - is a "construct" or an >>> invention which serves a specific purpose. It could easily be >>> fiction. >>> >>> But it is a construct in exactly the same sense that the neutrino >>> was for many decades a construct, a fiction and an invention - >>> which served a specific purpose ... that is, until the neutrino >>> was discovered to be both real and very close to having the >>> physical properties that its inventors thought it would have when >>> it was "constructed". >>> >>> Jones >>> >
