Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> JB: When the Swedish Professors find and document a robust COP of 4 instead
> of 30 they will be thrilled beyond words ! The prior test will be written
> off as measurement error.
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> JR: That's preposterous. A measurement error on that scale is out of the
> question.
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> JB: Nonsense ! In fact, this is the scenario that best fits the facts,
> whether you like it or not.
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Okay, so in the Feb. 10 test, input was 80 W and output was not 16 kW or 130
kW but 320 W (4 times input) the whole time. Is that what you mean? It was a
factor of 50 error, and a factor of 406 at the apparent higher power. You
consider this measurement error plausible.

Which of the 4 parameters do you suppose were wrong? Or was it a
combination? Do you think the flow rate was actually 9 ml/s and both the
observers and the flowmeter mistook this for 1 L/s? It is hard to believe a
flowmeter could be so inaccurate.

You say that scenario "best fits the facts." Which facts do you have in
mind? None that I am aware of. None of the items numbered 1 - 16 above are
factual, as far as I know. You made them up. For example you said: ". . .
 Of course a part of the funds are in escrow . . ." and ". . . he has worded
the contract in such a way that in the end a showing of strong overunity is
the criterion – not the full 30-1 gain." There are no funds in escrow as far
as anyone knows, and the only detail about the contract that has been
discussed is that the machine should produce 1 MW. There has been no word
about the gain.

There is no harm in inventing scenarios but you should take care not to
believe something that you yourself dreamed up on the spur of the moment.



> There is no chance that the demo was done correctly in measuring P-out, as
> Horace very accurately points out.
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I disagree. In my opinion, Horace's assertions are no in evidence, to say
the least. Any ordinary thermocouple or thermometer can measure a 5°C
temperature difference with high confidence. Assertions to the contrary are
not "very accurate" -- they are very strange.

Also, the people who did the demo know more about measuring temperatures and
energy than I do, and I suspect they know more than Horace does. Possibly
more than you do.

- Jed

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