jed, if the power were used to, say, run a thermoelectric heat pump, cooling one side of the pump, and heating something that was otherwise internally insulated, then heat WOULD go up after power is removed. (Just saying, if I were going to fake something, that's what I'd do. )
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Colin Hercus wrote: > >> If this excess energy over what is required to heat .9g/s of water to 124C >> is somehow stored in the eCAT (say, as thermal energy in a fairly well >> insulated block of steel) then it would be enough energy to possibly give >> the impression of a self sustaining reaction for at least 3 hours. So a scam >> is possible based on primary temperatures. > > People here keep saying this but there are fundamental physical reasons why > this is impossible: > > 1. Nearly all the heat added to the system clearly emerged from it before > heat after death began. if that were not the case, the temperature would not > have risen, and the cooling water would not have removed so much heat. you > cannot have the same heat emerge from the system twice. > > 2. When the power is turned off the temperature declines rapidly as seen at > 15:26 and again at the end of the run 19:43. > > 3. The temperature rises after the power is turned off. Stored heat cannot > do this. > > 4. The temperature fluctuates. Stored heat can only decline at a fixed rate. > > This is a physics form. If you are going to make assertions which are > contrary to the known laws of physics you should at least acknowledge that, > and try to explain why you believe this is an exception to the laws of > physics. I also think it is appropriate to do this before you publish > accusations of a scam. > > The accusation that this is a scam should not get a free pass, and not be > subject to a rigorous analysis based on the laws of physics. > > Honestly, if you think that stored heat can act this way, I think it is > incumbent upon you to perform an experiment to demonstrate it. I have > asserted that laboratory grade handheld thermocouple meters can measure > temperatures between zero and 100°C to within 1° reliably. I did not just > assert this, I tested carefully many times, and I can upload sample data to > show it. People who make these claims about stored heat should be willing to > upload data showing how stored heat being released in a stable system with > no changes to the flow rate or other conditions can suddenly increase the > temperature. > > - Jed > >
