Hi Jed, I can design a device where heat in the output goes up after power is turned off.
A simple analogy would be a steel bar, if apply heat to one end with a torch and measure the temperature of the other end there will be a temperature difference along the bar. When I stop applying heat there will still be an increase in the temperature of the other end until the bar reaches equilibrium and starts to cool. You can build an equivalent "circuit" with 2 resistors and 2 capacitors. xxxx=xxxx= The ECat behaves just like this as can be seen by the slow start to warming. You are right that once input power is stopped the system as a whole must cool but it's possible if one part is hot and another relatively cooler then the cool part can continue to increase in temperature. This is elementary physics. If the flow rate is 0.9 g/sec then it's also clear that the we can't be putting 8000W into the second heat exchanger so either the primary flow rate is wrong or the temperature measurements are wrong. Either way this is another test that has failed to prove the device works. Personally I'm still about 90% sure it does work and would just like to see a definitive test. Colin On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote: > Robert Leguillon wrote: > > Don't miss the fundamental argument of heat storage. >> Great care was taken to insulate the E-Cat, and keep heat from escaping. >> If you think that this is impossible, I have an experiment for you. Make a >> scalding hot 1/2 cup of coffee. Put it into a Thermos. See how long it >> takes to cool. >> > > Yes, yes, yes, we all know that heat can be stored. Please look at what I > wrote. I am saying that it cannot be released passively from a stable system > except monotonically decreasing. Yes, the temperature can be very high. Yes, > the decline can be slow when you use lots of insulation. (But in this case, > the data proves it was very fast.) > > But the temperature CANNOT go anywhere but DOWN. It can only decrease, > never increase. The rate of decrease must follow Newton's law. That is the > point you must address to prove the "stored heat" hypothesis. How can it > violate Newton's law? You need to demonstrate that it can by experiment. > > The only way it can go up is if there is heat generation. This is > absolutely fundamental to physics. It is the whole basis of calorimetry. if > this was not true calorimeters would not work. > > - Jed > >
