On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Just out of curiosity, do I need to keep arguing in favor of calibration
>> with a blank?  Is there anyone else who doesn't get why it's desirable?
>> Even essential?  I understand a blank may not be perfect because of the
>> hydrogen issue and I understand there are other reasons the demo may be
>> faked but the simple test I propose would remove a lot of not all of the
>> uncertainty about the output heat measurement.
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> I can certainly see the value of it, but I'm a little less enamored of it
> than you.
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Oh, you're absolutely right.  I am only enamored of the blank business
because it will stop the interminable niggling about thermocouple
placements, screwing around with the measuring instruments, problems with
the heat exchanger (Oct 6) and most of all, the use of the heat of
vaporization of steam as a measurement method for the enthalpy (all except
the October tests and maybe Levi's).   Nobody is going to win that battle
by continuing to do things the same way.  Running a blank breaks it up a
bit and would change the game.  It would make it more difficult (but still
not impossible) to fake the results.

I am much more in favor of running VERY VERY long times and producing a
great deal of energy -- far more than what could be gotten from burning all
that is in the hydrogen cylinder or anything which could conceivably be
stored in the device.  I am in favor of running it with no power
connection.  I am in favor of running it out in the desert on a glass
table.  And most of all, I am in favor of it being tested independently by
a renown university physics department officially or by a large well knows
laboratory independent of Rossi.   Any of those would be much better.

I keep pushing blanks and calibration because so many people seem willing
to keep playing Rossi's lame game of changing the methodology and the
equipment each time to no purpose in terms of proving the technology exists.

One more minor point about the blank.  I just remembered that the amount of
hydrogen Rossi claims is required for relatively short tests is negligible
in terms of heat of adsorption or reaction with nickel -- it's around a
gram if I recall correctly.  So it would be unlikely to affect a blank
determination to any significant degree if that matters to anyone.

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