One problem with this statement by Rossi that 18 kg hydrogen and 10
kg nickel is required for a 180 day charge for 1 MW, is that it is
inconsistent with the gammas observed (i.e. not observed.) See:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg53616.html
The non-transmuted Ni could of course be recycled in a fully
developed E-cat economy, and the hydrogen cost is inconsequential
because it can be made from water using E-cat generated electrical
power. The main problem is the inconsistency between statements and
observations. The 1 MW (or less) test produced no gammas. This
would be impossible, given Rossi's statements with regards to the
reactions involved, even if he used 5 cm lead shielding.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
On Nov 29, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote:
Just to conclude my question,
from various sources it seems that the pessimistic version of the
consumption of e-cat is the good one,
http://faq.ecat.com/112449/how-much-nickel-and-hydrogen-will-it-
take-to-generate-one-megawatt-of-heat-continuously-for-six-months/
10kg Ni+16kgH for 1MW*6month (4,4GW.h)
other numbers were daily consumption.
my estimate of world consumption, is that 300kTons of nickel could
produces one year of energy for the world,
and it represent 25% of world production.
it is strange that H is much more consumed than Ni, especially in
term of atoms,
but H have a tendency to leak.
maybe also the reaction is not the one I think about (H+Ni->Cu+E)
and the ratio H/Ni are very big.
something strange is that my FAQ put on ecat site is not answered,
and on journal of nuclear physic CF article my question/comment
have been blocked...
any correction/comment/critic/advice welcome
2011/11/25 Alain dit le Cycliste <[email protected]>
FYI i've found this FAQ
http://faq.ecat.com/113090/i-was-wondering-if-you-may-inform-us-as-
to-the-amount-of-hydrogen-that-will-be-required-to-run-an-ecatfor/
say that for 24h the 10kW e-cat use 0.2g of H...
it is hard to interpret about Ni...
the 0.2g might be just the fixed value to fill the Ni for 6
month... in that case, it can fill 12g of nickel at loading factor
1/1...
but what about the volume used to fill the pipes? maybe is it 0.1g
of Ni, 0.0016g of H loaded, and the 0.198 rest to fill the pipes
and chambers.
it can also be just the leaks for one day, telling nothing about
the quantity stored in the Ni, and thus, the Ni quantity...
and implying that it consume 3.6kg of H for a 1MW on 6month... but
what about Ni?
it can be a mix...
so, missing data to estimate Ni quantity, nor H consumption and
cause of the consumption (loading, leaks, reactions)...
not yet answer to my FAQ
http://faq.ecat.com/113004/in-faq-how-much-nickel-and-hydrogen-will-
it-take-to-generate-one-megawatt-of-heat-continuously-for-six/
on the site, but he seems to copy FAQ and answer from another
source ... if someone know where to deposit question, so they ane
answered clearly.
if someone find a better analysis...
2011/11/24 Alain dit le Cycliste <[email protected]>
so two article of the same FAQ are not coherent.
http://faq.ecat.com/112273/how-much-ni-is-in-the-cell/
http://faq.ecat.com/112449/how-much-nickel-and-hydrogen-will-it-
take-to-generate-one-megawatt-of-heat-continuously-for-six-months/
is'nt there a known issue with an error of unit that rossi admit.
I remember some comment about that mistake.
10g instead of 10kg... ???
note that the cost estimated of the powder is about 1 euro/MW.6month
http://faq.ecat.com/112602/if-selling-price-is-planned-for-500-
euros-per-1-kw-of-output-capability-this-is-5000-euros-for-10-kw/
and that 1kG of raw nickel is 13Eur/kg on the market...
incoherences...
To clear the doubt, I put the question on the FAQ.
http://faq.ecat.com/113004/in-faq-how-much-nickel-and-hydrogen-will-
it-take-to-generate-one-megawatt-of-heat-continuously-for-six/
maybe the different base numbers we have explain the disagreement.
